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srmorris87

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I'm one of those weird people that loves looking through dog books. Well, I was reading an AKC book and I know this is a big debate on here and I'm not trying to start anything but... People seem to complain that American Mastiffs should be called Anatolian Mastiffs. One problem, another commonly known name for an Anatolian Shepard is an Anatolian Mastiff. So no one will be happy in this debate I'm afraid. [frown]
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Ginag

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What Flying W Farms created is basically a "mutt". The term used when mixing breeds together ...We have enough dogs in shelters and rescue ..didn't need to add to the problems.
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srmorris87

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All dogs are mutts. There is no such thing as a purebred. And I've seen just as many purebreds in shelters. My sister volunteers in one. There is nothing wrong with mutts, I've had more problems with purebred dogs temperament wise than I have with a mutt who has a so called "aggressive" breed mixed in with it.
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Ginag

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I am not saying that mutts are not great, I have owned and loved many. When purebred dogs came into being through careful breeding and yes mixing up different breeds, it was long, long ago. With so many AKC purebred dogs we don't need more crosses to add to the problem of over population. I have been with Mastiff rescue for almost 25 years and have seen it all with just our breed. When ill intentioned folks start combining breeds to make a "drooless" Mastiff they are only in it for the money, not thinking about the future ...Any dog can be aggressive for sure, but my contention is that Flying W Farms came along when I was SO BUSY with Mastiff rescue. I was Director for the East Coast (I live in New England) God Bless you for rescuing your dog, but remember those that keep breeding, breeding, breeding for "fortune and glory" don't think of the big picture ahead...until they do rescue and see what I saw and others like me they have no idea. The health and welfare of the Mastiff breed is paramount, not making more or mixing up diff. breeds to attain monetary gain. I have been involved for almost 35 years with dogs and have seen the puppymill petshop problem, the shelters full and my own beloved breed go through hell...we don't need more, we need spay and neuter programs and NO ONE should breed unless they have intentions of health testing the parents, and a solid breeding program with people wanting their lines and pups. Check out our MCOA website for some great info on the Mastiff breed...again, mutts are wonderful companions and friends, but with so so many ending up euthanized and in shelters we have a serious problem in this country.
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Ginag

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Also...remember different breeds were developed for various "tasks" and purposes. That's why we have groups, Working, sporting, terrier, toy, herding..etc..today we have folks making "designer" dogs like labradoodles and puggles..pugs and beagles have different standards, problems ...wether inherited or caused by crossing. Unless parents are tested and health issues are eradicated you never know what might crop up. That is why careful breeding and selective lines are so important. Again, the task of breeding healthy, happy dogs should be left to professionals who care about the future of their breed and see the harm indiscriminate breeding does. We need less dogs and more people to shut down puppymills and petshops, the BYB's are on their own.
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srmorris87

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Many reputable breeders do it for just the money. I don't see the AM as a designer breed. I've actually talked to the breeder that my Dad gets his dogs from and he wont register his dogs with the AKC anymore due to the AKC worrying more about "breed standard" thsn the health and temperament of the dogs.

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The American Mastiff is a designer breed. Anytime you take 2 totally different breeds and call it by a made up name you are "designing" your own breed. I have been around many wonderful reputable well intentioned Mastiff breeders for over 30 years. Yes there are good and bad with anything...The AKC is a registry plain and simple. They have no jurisdiction over what rotten people do after they register their dogs. The same can be said for any dog registry. It's up to the individual to breed sound, healthy, dogs. You are missing my point. What I am trying to tell you is that there is a HUGE problem in this country with mills, petshops, BYB's. We don't need more...either pure or mutts. We need honest, loving breeders who put the breed paramount, not the almighty dollar.
Breeding Mastiffs is something that should not be entered into lightly. It takes years of learning, education, time and money. Responsible breeders do not just throw 2 dogs together. They health test, research pedigrees and make sure they have puppy buyers who will give their dogs the best care ...they follow up after the sale, that is a reputable breeder. The best we can do as a dog owner is to educate others before they make the purchase. Make sure they are ready and able to own a dog, too many are being dumped daily.
enough said.
Best to you and yours...
Gina
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Reputable Breeders DO NOT Breed for money.. We breed for our next show dog and carefully place all the puppies...The cost of whelping a litter is expensive and if you are doing it right and showing your dogs, it goes even higher...
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