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I just got done reading some stuff on the MCOA site and it says that breeders should test their litters for cystinuria..  This may be a dumb question or maybe someone already answered this and I missed it, but what is the significance of testing pups for Cystinuria if theres no carrier test yet?   Is it possible for pups at 2 months old or younger could test positive for cystinuria ?



Also, what is the difference between bladder infections and UTI's??   ( Possibly another dumb question?)


Sorry for the list of questions but I was also curious about this...

If a bitch is having frequesnt urinary tract and bladder infection problems, is it safe to assume that she is cystinuria positive or does it make better sense to test her for C+.  ???

I also thought that bitches do not come up as C+  in Cystinuria tests?

Isnt the percentage rate of bitches that are C+ like under 3% ???


Just curious.. Again I apologize for the high volume of questions..





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That's out-dated and I know they are working on updating the Cystinuria page on the MCOA webpages. Puppies don't test positive and it's really a waste of money to test them as young pups. I'm going to start testing at 2 years on everyone. 

UTI could mean the entire urinary tract system (from kidney on down) whereas a bladder infection is localized just in the bladder and down.

Bitches have not been shown to get cystinuria crystals BUT my son has a Mastiff who gets frequent crystals (totally different kind on crystals and treatment). Again, the girls have not formed cystinuria crystals so for and do not test positive for cystinuria. Most likely, if a girl is having these issues, it's another kind of crystals/infection.

Only one bitch has ever tested positive and that has even become suspect now (not truly a positive). Hope that helps.

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In part, it's to add info to the data base.

Pups typically do not show positive and cystitis (bladder infection) is not necessarily linked to cystinuria.

Bitches do not as a rule test positive. I believe only one on record.

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What is the extent of our open communicative relationship with the Newfie people??  I saw on the other C thread that caroline stated this has been in the works with all the C  testing and database and genetic link and research for 12 years?????   Thats a long time and I had no idea..  How long did the newfoundland community have to wait until they found the genetic carrier gene for their breed??  Is there not enough mastiffs out there testing positive and remaining positive after being re tested for us to complete research and collect info on how to go forwad.. Is it mainly funding that we are lacking or just tested dogs??   This seems to put a REAL cramp in some breeders programs as this waiting game can turn intoa high epidemic in our breed


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Newfie gene was different than what Mastiffs are displaying.
It was relatively easy compared to our plight.

Mainly funding and sample blood from affected stock that is needed.

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