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figmenta98

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Unfortunately, I read these posts AFTER purchasing two puppies from Christina. I can say that my experience with her has been less than professional from start to finish. The previous posts are accurate. I will attempt to condense my post, so as to not bore you all with the minute details. I wish to preface my post by stating that  I HAVE PHYSICAL COPIES OF OVER 100 TEXT MESSAGES AND EMAILS, to corroborate my statements as factual. I do expect that Christina will respond to this post, as I have seen her long-winded, response to the previous. I do not intend to rebuttal, as I have wasted enough time and energy on her as it is. My husband and I owned a male Engl Mastiff, who passed away at the young age of 5, in April. We subsequently lost our "senior' Labrador one month later, and I was very anxious to get a new puppy. We LOVE the disposition of the Mastiff breed and therefore wanted to get another one. I contacted a breederin Delaware and one in noth Pa. Pups were not available until November.I practice medicine for a large hospital and was working the nightshift, when I came across her her website. The pups were due around June 1st and I contacted her, never expecting to hear from her at midnite. Long story short, she told me the pick of the litter was available and the pups were about 2 days old. Against my better judgement, I sent her a deposit using Pay Pal, in the middle of the  night. I let my heart lead my mind, essentially. Who does business in the middle of the night? Christina owned the Stud dog to the litter, but her friend had the female. Christina was going to whelp the litter. Within a week, I receievd a text from Christina stating that her friend was mad at her for not giving her a puupy and was coming to take her litter home and care for them herself. I immediately thought, "what did I get myself into". I will stop with all of the gritty details and say that her friend did a great job with the puppies and her own website. Christina, however, felt the need to notify me , before her friend, of every change or piece of news, as well as every disagreement or argument they had. It was like gradeschool. (I may have forgotten to mention, Christina had ownership to the pick of the litter and basically SOLD her pick to me). I was becoming frustarted, but she had my deposit. I soon became a part of her FB group, Mountain Pride Mastiffs. About 2 weeks after my deposit was placed, I noticed three pups from her own litter remained. One caught our attention. I inquired and Christina told me she was considering keeping her. The next two days I begun to reserach Christina. She pumps out puppies like a factory! Basically, we decided to take this female puppy to , as my husband states, save her from a life of breeding. We hired a courier to bring her from Ohio to Pa, as I could not get off of work. I did the usual PAy Pal deposit and then mailed her cash. The courier was a disaster, lesson learned. The people were sweet, just took 14 hours to bring me my puppy. We took Montana to the vet. Our vet immediately asked us if we got her "from a reputable breeder" because she was lacking in bone structure and muscle tone. She was FULL of WORMS, Four different kinds. I kow all puppies do develop them, but considering that she was older and was "vetted" I didnt expect this. "Mo" has a great personality, but as she grows, she is very tall and lanky. Our friend, subseuqently purchsed one, who is one month younger and is 1 1/2 times the weight of our Mo. YOu get what you pay for is all I am going to say to that. We wanted a family dog, no puppies, so we are happy.
Fast-forwarding--Our plan was to pick up our male at the end of July. I received a text from Christina telling me she and her family were going to have a fishing vacation and would be able to bring puppies up to Harrisburg. We were going to meet her. The next day, she asks me for $200. I couldnt believe it. If she colected $200 for each puppy, we would be paying for her little wekeend get-away, and then a profit. At this time, I forst expressed to her that I questioned her business and told her"you are only in this for the money". It started a chain reaction of texts and finally my husband called her. We took the "high road" and told her it must have been a miscommunication, but we would pick up our own puppy. Dave also offered to transport the other puppies for free since we would be driving through Harrisburg to come home. She declined--couldnt resist the profit, I guess. Our pup developed a parasite and we chose to let him stay with the owner because we didnt want our other puppies to get it. Christina sends me a text that they contracted it from poor conditions at her friend's house. (Her friend has no idea she is emailing me this. I called the owner of the litter who just didnt have time to tell me yet). The owner of the litter basically states that she didnt have this problem before , but that the pups were at Christina's early on. If you look at the photos Christina has on her website, the conditions are not exactly superior, that these dogs are in. The surroundings often look muddy and dirty. The parasite can be contracted from dirty drinking water. Again, I remained amicable..just wanting my puppy. We were to pick up our puupy in August and bring the remaining money in cash. About two weeks prior to us picking up the pup, Christina sent me a text stating that she now was not going to be able to be present but she didnt want he friend to get the cash because she didnt trust she would give it to her. She now wanted a MO for the balance. Why should I pay for another MO when I have the cash. I told her I would mail the cash on a Monday. She then said she needed it because it would take 7-10 days for her bank to clear it. (My bank told me it would take 2-3 days to clear a check for $800). In the meantime, Christina was asking for donations for a MAstiff she recsued. My first thought, was how could she not afford $250 for a spay, when she has had 4-5 litters, either by her females or her studs, since March. I told her I would pay for it, not telling my husband. Because she was going to get back to me with the final total, I didnt mail the check for the puppies balance that next day because I was going to include money for her rescue. When she didnt have a total, I mailed the check Wed. On Thursday, I got an email first thing in the morning asking where her money is. I told her it was mailed. On friday, the same, and this is when I had had enough. I told her that she is running a puppy mill. I also texted her that I read this blog. She would have hermoney that day.She told me she would no longer accept my personal check, denied ever changing the agreement from cash on pick-up day to check. I told her to stop emailing me because we having more to say. I came home from work only 2-3 hours later, and had an email waiting. She "de-friended" me from the FB puppy group. She now would accept our cash, and she wanted no contact except required puppy pictures through email and proof of spay when the time came , in order to maintain our health guarantee. I contacted our attorney, who advised me to respond asking her to not conatct me anymore. Well, she sent me two or three more emails. Christina has to have the last word. I finally called her, and she hung up on me within a minute. Thank gosh--havent hear from her since. My husband and I have filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. Her business tactics are less than professional. One may not notice this however, unless you follow her for a period of months, as we did. We chose to have notarized letters given to her negating our health guarantee..as we want nothing to do with her again.
I highly advise anyone looking for a purebreed Mastiff puppy to stay away. Unfortunately, almost anyone can get AKC papers. It is a shame, the AKC is not monitoring her more closely. She has had so many breedings just over the few months we have been in contact. She is young, twentty-something, very inexperienced. Her postings on the FB group page clearly show her lack of knowledge when people have questions or concerns regarding behaviors of their puppies. As I previously mentioned, her puppies also lack physical qualities important to the breed. I think that there are so many "half" brother and sister puppies out there from her breedings that we will not know the full extent of any health problems they may encounter, for many years to come. If anyone has specific questions, i will be more than willing to contact you privately. Just send me an email.

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I cant even get on the link anymore.
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She may be resonctructing it, not sure. She has a litter due at end of August , I believe. We got Montana in June (born 3-25-12) We just brought our male home this past weekend (her friend had the litter and she owned the dad. HE was the dog we orgininally purchased at 2 days old, before i got to know her as a breeder)
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Fig is absolutely truthful in the "professionalism" with MPM.

I will not go into my bad experience as its not something I want to do. BUT Christina, has a way with words. She can sweet talk anyone!!

She KNOWS that she should health test, she is not dumb to this fact. She is and always will be about what money she can make. By the numbers of litters she has had for the prices (estimating at over 40k) ALL her breeding stock could be fully health tested and shown.
DO NOT let the fact that she "rescues" fool you! She has taken in prenant females, and sold the litter for well above "rescue" prices. She has BRED "rescues" One female in particular comes to mind which was "Daisy" she was severly emaciated, and Christina bred her anyway. A week later Daisy died do to "bloat" as per Christinas website. She posted pictures on her site of the emaciated Daisy in this condition.
Her stud "Brumis" is also a rescue of hers.

Her dam Lexi was aggressive until she trained her not to be. She is the foundation to a couple dams she owns. One of which was returned by her owner for aggression issues. But Christina has bred them all.

She exaggerates her Mastiffs weights and hights drastically. They are nowhere near these weights in many cases. Just a sales plot.

She sold a dog to me which was the oppisite of what I wanted, lacked care, was underweight and has security issues. I will not dive into it any further, but Anyone reading this, please steer clear of MPM, Also as to the post about her saving a stud litter that the owner did not care for...This is likely true(going on what her site said which means nothing... But this was the second stud to this owner in which the first stud there was lack of care for the litter as well so she should have known better to breed again to the same owners dog...)

the site is active not sure where the problems are at with it guys, i found it no problem

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http://mountainpridemastiffs.weebly.com/index.html
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I will not go into any details but I would be weary of her friends that she breeds with.  I did not have a good experience with one of the breeders that she bred with.  It was absolutely horrible.  I did not have a bad experience with MPM but with the breeder that she studs with.
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I'm not going to comment on the number of breedings that are appropriate etc, cause I feel that is a personal choice and some can't handle 2 litters a year while others can handle 5 or more. My problem is breeders breeding dogs that are poor examples of the breed to begin with. If the dog has crap type and a crap pedigree, it is just spreading more crap. Just my two cents. As hung up as some get on testing and how important it is, type should always be paramount. Type is the only thing that separates our breed from another. That does not mean that health should not be very important, I just think some people forget that a healthy lab or Dane with a mastiff pedigree being bred is the most detrimental thing a breeder can do. Aft all, mastiff breeders are not trying to produce good quality and healthy dogs. We are trying to breed good quality and healthy Mastiffs! Just my two cents.
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This is a reply to Figmenta! You say you want nothing more to do with Christina, yet you are commenting on her pictures that she just posted on 1-13-13 You sit and bad mouth someone and go right against what you say.
How can anyone believe anything that you are saying?

Just a question on slandering people
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Yes Christina you keep telling yourself that. Your mastiffs just look like mixed breed mutts that are part Great Dane.
I have nothing to hide and i do own a mastiff that YOU watched and fought me over $10 which was ridiculous on your part.

That's why you beg for money and things I am not the only one that sees it.

You have a fun time breeding your mutts
Now have a good day
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Oh and I forgot to mention that you said yourself, to have over 40 return puppy buyers, OMG, you backyard breeding fool, no wonder you don't have to work you make enough off your over breeding than a person does actually having a job and working for a living.
I feel sooooo sorry for you poor mutts you breed
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"... but not ONE person on here has reached out and said hey you are going about this the wrong way, this is how you do it/or you doing this and that wrong"...

Actually, a couple of years ago several people did reach out to you and try to help you. And then when it was brought up on another board a year or so ago that you had six or seven breedings planned by early spring and you claimed you wanted to change and be a reputable breeder (after deleting all the breedings off your website and denying they'd ever been there-even though everyone saw them), still people once again gave you the benefit of the doubt and offered to help you, in hopes that you would stop producing so many poorly bred puppies. You swore you were finally going to change, you were going to try and produce quality, not quantity. That lasted...well, not at all that I could see. The last I heard from you you sent me an email complaining that only backyard breeders would deal with you and wondering why anyone with any integrity had stopped associating with you at all. I sent you back a very long, very honest response.
You've been offered so many helping hands over the years, but it seems to me that greed has kept you from accepting any of them.

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For Tina!!
There are none so blind as those who will not see.  If you are still breeding poor examples of the breed then you have not learned anything.

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Where is the "LIKE" button for Tina's post??? 
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figmenta98

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To the person who accused me of lying and "slandering". I have not looked at this forum since I made my post in August. Since that time, Christina had contacted ME. I did give her updates on both of our puppies. I do not lie. My FB log in details how I rarely use it. At times, I will comment on Christina's photos. As you can see, her new puppies are from different "stock". Hopefully due to the bad press she has received! As an update, while I am here, yes, my male is extremely small for his age. HAsnt even hit 100 pounds. Montana, recently diagnosed with b/l hygromas. I did notify Christina, as the surgeon recommended that I do. Again, I will pay alot more for alot better quality, in the future.
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I'm about a year behind but you couldn't be more truthful. I myself have a Mountain Pride Puppy . 2 half siblings have been diagnosed with a rare genetic disease in the mastiff breed, called myastenia gravis . So rare, appropriate testing is still underway. One puppy is almost a year and is still surviving . Sadly the 10 month old passed away a week ago. When this was brought to her attention she went on a full cleaning sweep . She blocked and deleted 3 owners that were bringing light to this situation . Silence the facts ....keep her BYB business running . She is now harassing these 2 owners with her own medical research , blaming them and even contacting their appropriate veterinary consults . She will do whatever it takes to cover her tracks. I also agree the setting these poor dogs live in are less than fair . Owners have brought puppies home with giardia and cocidia (sp) on many occasions . People save your money and heartache ...steer clear of this deceptive so called animal lover . Those dogs pay her mortgage ! She needs shut down ASAP !
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Did this work ?
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did this work?
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Originally Posted by Jessica_Roberts026
Did this work ?


did what work??
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It is so disheartening that there are so many less-than-honest breeders here in Ohio, preying on people with their stories and lies. This is just one of many, unfortunately.
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I regret not doing my research before driving three puppies from Little Rock Arkansas to her home in Oklahoma in November 2012. She of course, resold them, kept the profit and sent me the money for only one. I should've known when she was a grown woman who does not deal in checking accounts or credit cards and could not PayPal or otherwise send me the money. When I tried to deposit the check she gv me to hold, me that that account was closed. She has evidently changed phone several times and lost these many conversations but I have not, and have copied into a PDF file (that she called me evil for sharing with anybody who asks) but it's all I have at this point and will happily share it with you if you ask. She's a pathological liar who needs her head examined and is not a good breeder - she will take your money and steals peoples dogs from them to resell for profit. She does not have you or the dogs health and mind! I admit I was stupid for trusting her. It was a long drive & I was tired. My brain was gone obviously. But I've seen her many sales over the years & she's never made right. And she won't make right with you either.
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I am saddened by all the post about Christina Jones and Mtn Pride Mastiffs, I regret my dealings with her as recent as 2016-I would like to know if any of the puppies discussed are out of litters of Sarge's. Thank you in advance
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hi guys, I'm new to the forum and decided to piggy back on this topic (hope the owner's ok with that)... So we've been looking for an EM puppy for a few months now. Being here in Northern VA is not easy, not a lot of breeders here and I'm not feeling the "buying over the internet and going by pictures only" ... it's not just the trust, just not my thing, I want to meet the breeder and the parents of my new baby! Anyways, I just came across this "breeder" in OH who is willing to drive down here to meet me half way with her pup... it's the pick of the litter that fell through as his future family had a family situation and were not able to pick him up so he's left now at 10 weeks old, together with 2 more siblings. Her name is Tammy Williams and she breeds mastiffs under the name of Majestic Mastiffs, located in New Marshfield, OH. Anyone heard of or has any experience with her? She swears her life on her dogs and their pups, their health and temperament, but I've read a lot about overbreeding in OH area that now I'm too scared and debating whether I want to deal with anyone from over there at all.. :/ Was planning to meet up with her this Saturday and I know myself, once I see the pup there's no way I can resist and I'll be bringing him home, but I don't want my heart to completely overtake my common sense so please, share your thoughts/advise I'd appreciate any input you guys have!
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