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I have recently stumbled across a website that caters to mastiffs x neo mixes    bullmastiff  x tosa mixes,   neo x tosa mixes etc. This man is located out in eastern PA  and advertises his dogs as the newer "athletic mastiff"'''.  He claims his dogs are bred for a purpose for working and playing.. Not to sound like a broken record for those who may already know about this kennel, but to those of you who dont or who may be new to the breed, please beware of  " breuer mastiff kennels".   His dogs also seem to be raised in bad conditions as some of his dogs pictured on his site seem to have bite wounds on their faces which would raise a red flag to be in regards to "dogfighting". Please beware of this kennel.



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None of his dogs really look like mastiffs.... and that picture of "Hondo at Play".... i'm pretty sure i've seen a "toy" like that in the kennels of fighting dogs.

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I googled this guy, he is just above Towanda PA, which is right below the New York State border at Elvira and Binghampton. I wonder if his kennel is licensed with the PA dept of agriculture. I'll try looking him up to see what his kennel inspections says. I know some one who used to live in Elvira, I'll ask her is she knows anything about this kennel. This is a very rural area


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Bob Breuer has been working with dogs since he has been a teenager. His background includes experience with German Shepherds, Pit bulls, St. Bernards as well as his current passion Mastiffs. During his lifetime he has shown St Bernard's at dog shows and has been awarded recognition for his efforts. During the years his experience in understanding the genetics of large dogs has grown. As a breeder Bob is self educated and his knowledge is based on many years of hands on time spent with dogs. Any breeding is well thought out and will produce the best possible results.



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The FDA may have record of him..


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Self educated means= I will do whatever I want!

Doesn't take much to become "self educated"!

No doubt, there will be some who actually buy into the program.

Mix & match, create new breeds, ..........no doubt someone, somewhere, will accept the claims!

More "American Mastiffs"?????????????

Neo-Clueless!

Better to experiment with parakeets!

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"Above all, a uniform type should be aimed at by breeders and uniformity of type can only exist in a proportionate ratio in the purity and distinctiveness in any breed"!.........M. Moore
"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well." Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything...Catherine McMillan
" A reinforced consolidation of the American and British standards could be the basis for restoring our breed to the gladiatorial glory of its ancient past, in capability if not in usage".....Norman Howard Carp-Gordon
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  His FiFi" puppy he kept--is a longhair--guess he thought he had something Rare."  LOL!


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While we may not agree with his breeding practices, I am afraid there is slim to none chance PA Dept of Ag will do anything about him.

They are in a rural area where I highly doubt there are subdivision bylaws about numerous pets. The body count does not appear to be overwhelming.
The kennel runs look clean with proper drainage. The dogs do not appear to have runny eyes or scars. The dogs look well fed. They appear to have shelter.

If you really want to be pissed off about PA puppy Mills and the absence of laws to protect dogs read here >

These guys ought to be shot, but not killed, let them SLOWLY bleed to death
Typical Amish puppymillers

  Posted on Wed, Aug. 13, 2008
  Berks kennel owners kill their 80 dogs
  By Amy Worden
  Inquirer Harrisburg Bureau
  HARRISBURG - Two Berks County kennel operators killed nearly their entire kennel population - 80 dogs - after wardens ordered veterinary exams on dozens of their animals.
  After receiving a poor inspection report on July 24, Elmer Zimmerman of Kutztown shot his 70 small-breed dogs and threw them onto a compost pile on his property, according to officials with the state Bureau of Dog Law Enforcement. His brother, Ammon Zimmerman, who operated A & J Kennel next door, shot 10 dogs about the same time, they said.
  It is legal for dog owners in the state to put a dog down by shooting it. Gov. Rendell, as part of his effort to improve kennel conditions, is seeking legislation to allow only veterinarians to euthanize commercial kennel dogs.
  Elmer Zimmerman, owner of E & A Kennel, said in an interview yesterday that he feared the Department of Agriculture was trying to close him down and that he destroyed the dogs on his veterinarian's recommendation.
  "They were old, and we were hearing that they don't want kennels anymore," said Zimmerman, who has held a commercial kennel license since at least 2003. "The best thing to do was get rid of them."
  Ammon Zimmerman, reached yesterday by phone, told a reporter his decision to destroy his dogs was "none of your business."
  Jessie Smith, the dog-law bureau's special deputy secretary, said Elmer Zimmerman told dog warden Orlando Aguirre that the dogs had been shot.
  Aguirre, who had cited Zimmerman for multiple dog-law violations and ordered vet checks on 39 dogs for flea and fly bites, told him he didn't believe he had shot the dogs. Zimmerman then got out the backhoe and uncovered the bodies of dogs - among them poodles, shih tzus and cocker spaniels - that had been thrown onto the compost pile, she said.
  "It's horrible, but it's legal," said Smith of the shooting.
  "That someone would shoot 70 dogs rather than spend money to do a vet check is extremely problematic," she said. "If the definition of a puppy mill is putting profits over care of the dogs, this is a stark example of doing that."
  Smith said Aguirre ordered Zimmerman to destroy the wooden hutches that held the dogs in order that the brothers not go back into commercial breeding.
  Smith said the bureau had stepped up its enforcement of current kennel regulations in an effort to improve conditions. If they don't improve, she said, kennels should "go out of business."
  Ken Brandt, lobbyist for the Pennsylvania Professional Dog Breeders Association, which represents 300 commercial kennels, said his group did not support the Zimmermans' actions.
  "There are others ways to take care of the situation, like in a court," he said.
  Howard Nelson, chief executive officer of Pennsylvania SPCA, called the shootings inhumane and evil and said the breeder could have easily surrendered the dogs to rescue groups.
  "He could have treated the dogs with medication for $40 or $50," said Nelson. "Every humane society in the state would have taken those dogs."
  Elmer Zimmerman said he felt he had no alternative because business had been so bad he couldn't "give away" his puppies, let alone his older, breeding dogs.
  Both men surrendered their kennel licenses and Elmer Zimmerman pleaded guilty to four charges of violating the dog law, she said.
  During the inspection on July 24, wardens found, in addition to the skin infections, 19 other violations. They issued citations for maintenance, extreme heat, insufficient bedding, and wire flooring that allowed dogs' feet to fall through.
  Zimmerman said he had never had problems with wardens before. Inspection reports dating to 2006 show instances where wardens noted severe matting of dogs' fur and inadequate shelter, but no citations or formal warnings were issued.
  Smith said the shootings were reason for tougher legislation, under consideration by the state House, that would require that dogs be euthanized only by a vet.


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I would be very curious to see the conditions of his property..  Some of his dogs seem to have healed scars on their faces, especially the "''bullmastiff" looking dog he has on his site.  Breeders like this worry me. WHat are they asking for pups?  DO they allow potential buyers to come onto their premesis?   I know this is not the first time a "puppymill" or backyard breeder has popped up but I also believe in intervention.  WHat are the conditions of the dogs? Maybe if someone on this board lives within reason to this man, they could chat with him and possibly stop by to see his premesis and dogs. If it looks like a place where dogs are used for fighting or he has the dogs in "unfit" living conditions then something should be done, since there is already awareness.  JMO



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I looked up this guy's kennel in Pa Dept of Agriculture web site
he has been in bussiness since 2006, has been inspected twice in 2006 and twice in 2007 and passed both times

here is the link to the PA dog kennel inspection reports
http://services.agriculture.state.pa.us/KennelInspections/SearchKennelInspections.aspx

enter Breuer as the kennel name
and ulster as the city

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there is an advertised mastiff breeder's home i drive by a couple times a week i never see anyone out when i go by and always look to see if anyone's around as i don't want to knock on the door, well the other day I'm driving by and the family's in the driveway so i stop to say hi and to check out some dogs and to see what they have for females on site - well i was horrified!!! without getting into details what i had seen was real creepy! dogs that were very unhealthy looking and had obvious medical issues, and i was asked about breeding my dog and told OH WE NEVER DO MASTIFFS TO MASTIFFS THERES NO MONEY IN IT!!! WE ONLY DO DESIGNERS, man Dr. Frankenstein had nothing on them! this was sad very sad, sorry if this is considered bashing but i mentioned no names it's  just still causing a funny feeling in my gut! yuk! theres so much more but again yuk!! - and as i was escaping i was told if i ever wanted to breed remember designer breeds is were the money is - YUK!!


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Hi Darren

If this is MA you should contact the local animal control in that town and/or the Mass human society in E. Weymouth and register a health complaint if you saw these dogs and believe they are ill and not being treated.  They have to have a kennel license if they have more than 3 dogs which opens them up for inspection by local authorities.

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Our laws were pretty lax(rural) here until recently.It is very hard to watch your neighbors do Whatever they want,and have no authority to do anything about it .Shooting an animal is also not illegal here,because many raise their own food(cows,goats,sheep,pigs,etc).Many shoot their own horses and dogs when the time comes.This guy(1st story) sounds like he is a putz.There are plenty of them  out there.

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Well in Massachusetts there is a LOT of time spent in your neighbors business (that is both good and bad...) - we are still working on the puritanical community philosophy - what you do reflects on me (the scarlet letter and all that !).

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    Elmer Zimmerman, owner of E & A Kennel, said in an interview yesterday that he feared the Department of Agriculture was trying to close him down and that he destroyed the dogs on his veterinarian's recommendation.
 


Maybe I don't get it - is there a difference between the Department of Agriculture "trying to close him down", and killing all your breeding stock yourself?????



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On the subject of BreuerMastiffKennels
I bought a female mastiff from this man a little more than 8 years ago. She just recently passed from kidney failure in association with lime disease. It was very hard, she was a wonderful loving girl. And was healthy all the way up to her last 2-3 months. I always vaccinated her and checked her for ticks, but somehow she still managed to get lime disease.

I can't believe the amount of badmouthing on this forum page from people who have never been to this mans property or ever talked to him. He had a phenomenal kennel. 2 buildings, 1 for mothers with puppies and a monsterous barn type building with very large kennels for the rest. All of the dogs looked very well taken care of and happy. I was able to walk through the both buildings and wasn't growled at or anything. they would come up and lay their body against my legs..as mastiffs like to do. And they all loved the man very much. He was an older retired gentleman but ran the dogs around his fields of property with one of those offroad style golf cart things. He only fed them healthy food, kept them in heated buildings when they weren't out playing, and had a wealth of knowledge on the subject of breeding. He wasn't a mill..that's for sure. He actually turned me down at first because he was giving away the one puppy that wasn't spoken for to the neighbor kid who helped him out often. But he had a cancellation and called me up. He called me up every now and again to ask me how the dog was doing. The last time we spoke was right after my daisy dog passed away. He wasn't breeding any more mastiffs. The ones he had left were past breeding age and he was getting too old to keep up with having that many dogs. 

But anyways. The dog was so obedient, loving, and loved by everyone she met. She was 135 pounds at her maximum, but very very fit and fast. I had so many people ask me where I got her and would I consider breeding her, or if I ever needed someone to watch her. etc. because she was so well behaved and such a loving girl. 

Guess it doesn't matter anymore since this guy hasn't been breeding dogs for some time now, But I figured I'd try to help clear his name a bit as I was shocked at what I was reading here. I wish he was still breeding as I would get another mastiff from him in a heartbeat.

RIP Daisy
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