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Cedarhollow

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Mary, You are very correct in saying that we all base our opinions on our experiences.  I can tell you from your description that the pull you saw was NOT an IWPA pull.  There are VERY strict rules and they are followed to a T. 

Just about anything we choose to participate in can be 'ruined' by some people.  I have seen injuries to horses doing barrel racing, trail riding, etc.  I have a friend who's dog broke it's leg tracking.  People that are going to push their dogs as you have described are the problem...not the activity.  Years ago...I was 'chastised' for even THINKING of having a Mastiff participate in Agility!  Tooooo hard on joints.  Today...no big deal!  But, you have to have faith and trust in the owner of the dog to not put their dog in a bad situation.  Just like showing in the heat, etc.  A few bad apples can destroy just about anything. 

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Weight Pulling - It depends on the dog and on the owner. I did weight pulling with my girl Teazer.  Her best pull was 4,900 pounds.  I am sure she could have pulled more but I thought that was enough.  The reason I got into it with her is due to her energy, she earned her name wild one and she absolutly loved it.  We would be waiting our turn and she would bark at the dog pulling to hurry up.  I had a heck of a time holding her back.  We did a lot of training and toneing up prior to really doing any pulling. I never saw anything with any of the dogs that was cruel or inhumane.  Would I pull with everyone of my dogs?  NO, Drake thought the cart was for him to ride on.  Teazer will turn 10 this Jan and free whelped 13 puppies, so I guess it didn't hurt her too much.



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  what type of conditioning and toning do you do?

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Exactly, Michelle!  Rebel, our Bullmastiff cross pulled...and he enjoyed it but only for a few pulls...no matter what weight you were on...then he was kind of like, "Ok, enough of this...let's do something else, now!"  But Sass, our little CockerX LOVED to pull!!  We just started her because she was along anyway...but she really enjoyed it.  Tail wagging the entire time. 

Kind of like some dogs how some dogs enjoy the show ring and some don't!

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I am sure she could have pulled more but I thought that was enough. 


Michelle,

Can you tell us why you felt that way?

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I just found this thread!! Noble has been pulling since last February. Moses is our HERO and who we aspire to! We train Noble 4-6 days a week doing cardio and drag training (with about 75-100lbs) we do short pulls, long sprints, etc etc. Nobel went form pulling 2650 last spring with the IWPA to pulling 3790 a few weeks ago at an NWDA event!! He will be at the IWPA season opener in Syracuse NY on sept 3 and will do his first pull on rails through the APA on sept 29th!! I LOVED reading this thread and hearing more about Moses. He is our goal
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No matter how well a harness is designed, it still must connect to the dog at some points on it's anatomy.

In Mastiffs, we are pushing the boundary on size to the limit in the canine world. There are enough stressors placed on this breed as it is!

Coupling 7000 lbs to a dog which is over-designed to begin with, can make for a bad combination.

In a natural state, dogs are not designed for pulling things other than their own body mass.

Since the weight pulling competition serves no purpose, other than to amuse the onlookers and impress statistic books like Guinness, why subject the dogs to extreme loads?

A knee, or hock could fail, muscles torn and ligaments & tendons placed at risk.

Perhaps there is a very low incidence of injury at these competitions, I don't know, but why chance fate, especially at these absurd weight levels???
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Steveoifer weight pulling is great for the mastiff
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