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Hi all. Has anybody heard of. "Mastiffs for Soliders? Is it legit?
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Never heard of it. What is it suppose to be?
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Where did you hear about this? I'm with Valerie, what is it supposed to be?
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Well they have a website, I just googled it....
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100% legit and we have sponsored veterans and supported TBI & PTSD Vets since 1999 era. 
I would think if you have a question like this it would be as simple as asking the owner in an adult manner not run to a forum.  
Now as well it is M4 Program ( Mastiffs 4 Veterans ) We have financially helped many Veterans with vet bills. We have placed mastiffs as companion recovery friends with these Veterans. We do not accept cash donations, dogs, etc We merely support them and give to them. At anytime a veteran has a need and a fundraiser is done the money goes direct to the Veteran via fundrazr, paypal etc. We are merely the network aspect of it a lot of times. We work close with many military people, chaplains who bring us the needs of various Veterans. Sometimes that is in the form of a companion animal, other times is is an Emergency Veterinarian fund need. Most of what we do is private. As you can imagine you do not want your business broadcast on the internet, why would our wounded warriors ?
Again it is as simple as asking the correct person. 

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Why was the Mastiff chosen as the breed of choice and where do you obtain the Mastiffs used for this purpose?
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"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well." Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything...Catherine McMillan
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Hi Steve, 
Why not mastiffs ? They are awesome therapeutic dogs, As any dog is.  The mastiff is what I have always owned for years. I have worked with veterans and nursing homes with them successfully.
The mastiffs are not "obtained" from anywhere. They we selected from our limited breedings.
A lot of what we do is on personal levels with Veterans Suffering from PTSD and TBI. There is a grey area where they are not 100% normal and do not qualify for other programs. The same people you would meet everyday and never know their story. We provide information, counseling, training help, Socialization methods, Provide vet care funds if they need it. There are many levels in which we work that are private. 
My own dogs have worked in the VA hosp and Veteran homes since late 90's
Mastiffs are perfectly capable of attending to the needs of those who need a friend or an occasional hand for those suffering from vertigo etc.
Furthering success rates is those who receive a companion recovery animal, Work in hospital with their dog to help others as well. It is a great thing.



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I only ask, because there are many unscrupulous people out there using the cover of a charitable organization and then wind up breeding rescues for profit. Many of these people are not officially registered as a charity and yet operate as though they were. Some even switch out names of their so called organization, in order to stay ahead of the issues that will eventually catch up to them.

We can't be too careful in the Mastiff breeding game!

Lots of bad players out there.


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For the betterment of the breed

"Above all, a uniform type should be aimed at by breeders and uniformity of type can only exist in a proportionate ratio in the purity and distinctiveness in any breed"!.........M. Moore
"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well." Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything...Catherine McMillan
" A reinforced consolidation of the American and British standards could be the basis for restoring our breed to the gladiatorial glory of its ancient past, in capability if not in usage".....Norman Howard Carp-Gordon
"I can live with doubt, or not knowing, rather than to have answers that might be wrong"...Richard Feynman
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We have worked with vets since the 90's and are very careful about placements, Stick criteria. All are s/n And there is mentors following each on.
My question is why are people sending out rescues unaltered ?
Moreover one reason we decline many who offer "help". 
It is not worth the risk, to the Veterans, Dogs, Or our program.

I am aware of some orgs, which you speak. I do know one exists that charges 2500. to sponsor a Veteran and they get a 50 lb under dog adopted from the pound, 1 crate and first set of shots. Not sure where the other 2300. goes But OK.


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Great work Danielle!
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Thank you Jann ! You have always been a great cheerleader for many years
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I asked you one time and was never answered 2 questions by PM on FB...What is your 501C3 # and do the Breeders stay involved? The VA here has a group that let the Breeder stay involved with the puppies and the Vet.
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HI Steph !
Sorry Thought I had answered it a few times I had posted this. [biggrin] Maybe it was missed. 
First off the program closed on the dog end back some time ago do to my illness and cancer issues in 2010.

So here we go, we are not a 501c3, We do not take donations , there is no reason legally to be. We do have a federal Non profit ein if we need it for any reason. No we do not pass this out in the public. Over and over I have been through this. We simply do not meet the criteria for 501c3 as we do not take donations. We give. give give. We are not a charity, We are a program. We do not provide service dogs. We provide companion recovery buddies. Period.  For the 15 years of the program, this has been done out of my husband and mines pockets, No one elses.

Any funds a Veteran may need ( transport, training, equipment etc) is raised by a sponsored fundraiser. Meaning we advertise it, promote it, get vendors on board but the money goes to the Veteran. Not the program, Never has. However most items always came out of my pocket or my boutiques pocket ! Items re sold were paid for by my husband and I. 

We are a program of people who love Veterans. Simple as that. I am not sure why people want to make it complex or more than what it is.

If we had Breeders on board they would donate straight to an approved veteran. Not the program. We merely over see the qualifications and networking of Vet / Donor /and medical professionals.
However, No one seemed to want to again Keep it that simple as it was. So we tossed the idea to the wayside.
Yes we most certainly expected any breeder to do everything they would do for a puppy buyer, Be there, mentor ,educated, take the dog back, Same as your normal day life of a breeder. However most dogs do require basic obedience training and a little more rearing depending on what the Veterans needs were. Placing an older dog wasn't on many breeders list. Breeders did not want to take that time to put into the dog. Or they simply wanted to dump the unsellables on Veterans.[frown] So we did away with the idea of breeders many many years back when all the hullabaloo happened and people wanted medical records etc. 

What many do not understand M4 program went well beyond dogs and public view. A lot of what we did was not in the public eye, Helping with housing, counseling, financial support, family support. A vast network of people who could lead ,guide and direct Veterans, working with their counselors, chaplains etc.
I think the vast majority of people have a misconception of what we do/ did. 

We continued and worked on the counseling line till just a few weeks back when I retired out due to some more health issues. I can not man the phones all night anymore. We got them in touch with agency's who can help them that we regularly dealt with. Many do not understand what they face. But merely wanted to bloat their names, or kennel name. We were never about that. It was and will be in the future 100% always about service to the Veteran [biggrin]

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Also, I did look and do not see any FB , Pm's and I do keep them all [frown] 
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HI .Gee , I haven't been on a board .For I don't know how long <LOL> Id like to know :>[wink] Who breeds the dogs that go to the Solders
Are they bred ,and given away free? who trains them ? Do different breeders involved in this ?and are thy then paid for the pup ???

Just asking :>[wink] I cant see a Breeder ,going through all the breeding stuff .And just giving the Pups away <SIGH> Unless they are the lesser pups ??

Hope you feel better .Marge

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Marge...I can't answer any of the questions but I've been wondering how you have been and if you still have "opie"...how is he doin?
Hope all is well..
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