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rainydaysmastiffs

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Catie,
Not that Geri needs defending in how she feels, but you were all to ready to burn Gloria at the stake when this first broke as well and had posted a blog to that effect.  While I commend you for your heroic effort to get those animals cremated and put to rest properly, I don't think you're being realistic in expecting Geri or others that have personally lost their puppies to roll over and say "Poor Gloria". 

Let them mourn however they need to for what they have lost and no one will judge them poorly IMO for how they respond to this tragedy.

Do I feel for Gloria's parents? Yes, I do. Do I feel for anyone else involved with the mistreatment and ultimate death of these dogs? No, I don't. There's enough righteous anger to go around...

Back to lurking.

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I will NOT comment on Gloria BUT bringing up the fire to Geri was NOT appropriate and shows a HUGE lack of taste.  It has nothing to do with this post and should not be used to cause emotional pain to someone who has already gone through so much. Yes, I know Geri you do not need defending I just thought this comment was WAY below the belt.

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has anyone heard any more news? any true facts that have been released?  i think that man whom ever he was had something to do with this and i have been toldby SEVERAL people the stomach content of the dead dogs should have been checked.  does anyone know if a thurough autopsy was done on any of them? i think people's minds are going a bit crazy thinking of the what if's!


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SEVERAL people the stomach content of the dead dogs should have been checked. 


it was posted back in the beginning that AC said the dogs stomach contents was only leaves.

This story has changed so much its like watching a soap. I do not believe most of what has been posted. I think she is alive and well and is hiding. I think she will show up in about 6 months and blame it all on Kazia. That is how Gloria works. Always blame everyone else. She will also say she doesn't answer to anyone and did need to tell anyone anything.. I know Gloria. This is my opinion or gut feelings.

I sit and shake my head at those who think they know more than the cops and that they have watched way to much CSI...



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Lorie & Geri--I will offer my sincere apology if I am wrong.

My guess is that Gloria will never be found in 6 months or 6 years.


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Catie, I don't need your apology. I understand she was your friend, and you are upset with how many of us feel. Whether Gloria is alive or not, that is not MY concern. I don't WISH her harm, but she has had a long ugly dance in this life, and as I said, she has made her bed. She can explain it all to her maker when she sees Him. MY only concern at this point is for the REMAINING dogs who are living, and hopefully will soon experience the types of homes they should have been in right along. I am sorry if you can't understand this. It is irrelevent to me if Gloria committed this finally act against the dogs or not. The fact still remains that while Gloria was present with the dogs, they did NOT receive the care they deserved.


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have there been any updates on the dogs themselves? how are they doing? have they all found homes yet? I know several people up in MA and NH that would love to help out!!


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Nothing can be done with the dogs until they are released by Animal control which we hope will be soon.  They remain as part of the evidence for the abuse and cruelty case.  It may still be some time before thay can be released.

All of the adult dogs are doing well--gaining weight--still thin but doing much better.  The vet has done weekly bloodwork on them  and they appear to be making a good recovery. The puppies were is good shape at the time AC picked them up--so they are going just fine, too.

Thank you for asking.  A huge thank you to each and every one of you who have contributed money to the care funds--the supplies and dog food has been a great help to AC.  AC has done a wonderful job under trying circumstances--We should offer then a huge thank you when this is over.

To all of you who have kept these dogs in your thoughts and prayers--thank you.  I ask that you continue to pray for answers and justice.

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I wish I was a Mastiff right now.

I AM ASHAMED TO BE PART OF A HUMAN RACE THAT TREATS SUCH BEAUTIFUL CREATURES IN THIS WAY.

I desperately hope you involved have a suitable and just demise.

I am new to the Mastiff competition world and can see that on occasion people put themselves before their dogs for whatever reasons. We may all do it to some minor extent so lets stop and put the dog first every time.

Its easier for a new comer to observe the following but please reflect on yourselves one and all. It will do us all good to take something positive away from such despair.

Take a breath folks and remember why you got your Mastiff and the love they impressed upon you before you got success in the show ring or lots of money for selling the pups or now have so many dogs your time is thinly divided.

Maybe there is a way we can all take time out of our busy schedules to assist the plight of these Mastiffs and other breeds.

Lets start reporting abuses on animals rather than sitting back and waiting for the authorities. There are community-authority partnerships in place all over the world to enhance information. Without your input the authorities may never find out until its too late.

This instance appears to be living proof someone out there waited for another to make a difference.

JUST DO IT

Best wishes to all the Mastiff and animal CARERS out there and BLESS the POOR CREATURES WHO HAVE LEFT THIS WORLD IN SUCH HORRIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES:.
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Has anyone heard what happened to Gloria? I dont know her, but it seems kinda wierd to me that she has not come forth if she is alive and well? So many dogs have suffered and my heart goes out to each and every person who lost a dog due to the neglect. But something is just not right here? Why are the police not questioning this Kazia lady and getting any answers?

Just wondering if anyone has heard any more about what is going on ?

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Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06796AC 03/12/2010Pending  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court
Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06975AC 03/12/2010Bench Trial Requested  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court
Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06977AC 03/12/2010Bench Trial Requested  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court
Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06978AC 03/12/2010Bench Trial Requested  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court
Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06979AC 03/12/2010Bench Trial Requested  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court
Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06980AC 03/12/2010Bench Trial Requested  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court
Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06981AC 03/12/2010Bench Trial Requested  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court
Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06982AC 03/12/2010Bench Trial Requested  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court
Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06983AC 03/12/2010Bench Trial Requested  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court
Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06984AC 03/12/2010Bench Trial Requested  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court
Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06985AC 03/12/2010Bench Trial Requested  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court
Martz, Kathy BurgessDefendant 06986AC 03/12/2010Bench Trial Requested  Criminal    Anderson Summary Court



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Tina, you hit the nail on the head and that still doesn't account for the dogs that died there, does it? It sounds like the 9 counts are for the ones that were still ALIVE and neglected.


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Omgosh. This has been so horribly heartwrenching to read.

It's been about 8 mos or more since I've lurked/posted on this board. We still do not have a Mastiff puppy yet, and after reading this thread, I am comforted to know that we did the right think in waiting so long before putting our "trust" into a breeder. We've been researching Mastiffs and a few other large breeds, since 1996! Along the way, we bought a little Shih Tzu. She's the joy of our lives, and we are so BLESSED to have found the most wonderful show breeder -- a true lady, and someone I 100% would trust to leave my precious baby with if we ever needed to for any emergency reason.

We've prayed that we would be able to find the same type of breeder when we decide it's the right time to buy our Mastiff puppy. But right now, after having read this thread, I'm actually feeling a lot of fear now about how to find the right Mastiff breeder!! This has always been a worry of mine, so reading this thread had nothing to do with that. But, what this thread has done -- is make me realize that just because I get to "know" breeders on Mastiff boards, it's still NO guarantee that the breeder will be the same as what he/she represents herself to be. I naively assumed that lurking and posting on various dog boards would help me get to know the breeders...but now, I really feel lost.

During the time that I was a member here before, my biggest frustration was that no one wanted to give negative comments about other breeders (though many were nice enough to pm me privately and give me their opinions as to who was a somewhat good breeder in my area). Well, if no one calls out "bad breeders", then HOW is a prospective puppy buyer supposed to know who to trust vs who to definitely stay away from??? I don't remember this "Gloria" person, but if she posted here, and no one called her out, then I'm sure that I would have thought she was a "reputable breeder".

I feel so sorry for those poor Mastiffs! Animal cruelty makes me so sickened, and I can't even begin to say what I think the guilty should have done to them. Whether Gloria was a victim or a perpetrator -- I don't know. But at the very least, the other person living with her, who let these Mastiffs starve, should be put in jail, at the very least.

I feel so sorry for ALL of you who have been personally touched by this tragedy, whether because your dog was in her care, or you were in some other way affected. My heart goes out to all of you.

I hope if there are any other "newbies" lurking on here, aside from me, that you ALL will know NOT to ever buy a puppy "over the internet", nor buy a puppy without having visited the kennel to see how the dogs are raised, etc. I've been trying to "do my homeowork" for over 14 years now, and it's really really hard to be able to get to the bottom of whom to buy a puppy from, and who NOT to buy a puppy from. I just pray that when it's time for me to make my decision, I make the RIGHT one!!

I think I'll go and have a good cry now over those poor helpless, INNOCENT sweet sweet Mastiffs who suffered so much!!!--- I just cannot understand what kind of sick monster can live inside a home and feed her own dogs, while her "absent" roommate's dogs STARVE to death outside --- from what I read thus far, I believe that is what happened? I'm guessing that Gloria has still not turned up, so there is no way to know if she is responsible for this or not, but at the very least, that other woman IS guilty of animal cruelty, imho.

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i have read everything about what has been going on and i PRAY that Gloria Davis has not been dead all this time.  or even before the problem with the dogs.  if this were the case, a lot of people will have to apologize.

i too had a lot of hatred but since this all came out, there has been no sign of Gloria just Kazia.

i hope that all is well with Gloria and that she pays for what she has done.  but if something henious (sp) has happened to her, my prayers go out to her family.
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  Don't hold your breath. I have had some of the nastest, cruelest comments sent to me these past few weeks that has made me almost ashamed to be associated with the Mastiff Community.  People who know nothing about me have  made outrageous comments and accusations.   I have been judged, condemned and hung out to dry  just because I have stood up and spoken for Gloria.

I have been accused of trying to "cover" up Gloria's "crime"; trying to get her dogs and sneak them back to her to she can set up and breed again; my favorite--that the friends who are trying to get Gloria's dogs out of AC just want them to breed;  and the some of the other comments  made  and directed toward Gloria-- are just not repeatable.

No one lives a perfect life. Those who set themselves up as judge and jury--well, you open up your ownself to be judged. Questionable conduct is questionable conduct==no matter who you are.  Sometimes the biggest sinners sing the loudest in church.

It hasn't made a bit of difference that those of us who CURRENTLY know Gloria well  are extemely concerned that NO ONE--not family not friends have spoken to her in Months--well before any of this begun.  It took well over a month before the authories began to look serriously into Gloria's dissappearence.  The dead can not be made to pay for what the living do.

Why?  I think because so many  busy bodies were so busy re-hashing old rumors and gossip that it gave credence to the lies that Kazia was telling.  In a way, it hindered the investigation--because wasted energy and resources were spent looking for a living person  instead of looking into the reason Gloria was missing..

IMHO--I know in my heart Gloria is dead.  There is no way any of this would have happened unless she was dead.  I have believed this since I first stepped on that property and saw those dogs with my own eyes.  Oh, I even was partially fooled at first--but I should have know better.

As for my involvement in trying to care for her dogs--that's what friends do.  When everyone else walks out--we walk in.  Say what you will--but I was raised to do what I know is right.  Helping Gloria's dogs find new and loving homes is what is right.  It's the last thing I can do for her as a friend.

Frankly, I don't give a flying rat's ass what anyone thinks is my purpose  or goal.  I told why I have done what I did (go pick up the dead dogs)  and why I will follow through and help place the living dogs--and if you can't accept that as truth--then to hell with you.

Don't expect to see me respond to this topic again. I am sick to my soul of reading the spleen and venom--and the pure stupidness of some people.  I am also past tired of being attacked for just being a friend.   I am tired of apoligizing for trying to be a friend.  Myself and  a couple of others have worked long and hard behind the scence to do what we feel is right.  I am tired of being second guessed and analyzied to death whenever I say anything.

No one owes me an apology and I don't need any--ask God for forgiveness.

I pray every night for Gloria's sons and her parents; I also pray for justice and answers.  That's all I want.

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It is a sad day for the mastiff community.  Kazia received a fine of $455.  If she is able to pay the fees associated with the shelter she will have her dogs back.

I am disgusted beyond words right now.


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This is the biggest problem with working any animal cruelty cases, the fines and penalties are a joke!!
My only hope is that she has to come up with the money legitimately, not off the backs of others who buy into the sympathy factor.

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Tracy I'm sure her friend Memory Armstrong is writing a check as we "speak".


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THAT IS ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING!


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I just can't believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   How can that happen????  $455???   The judge who fined her surely didn't see the pictures!!!!!!!  ???? 


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Judi I have no idea.  Kazia is a pro at conning people and working the system.  My disgust for yesterday's outcome is beyond words!

However there was some justice served yesterday for the dogs that are alive.  The shelter in Anderson, SC has been given ownership of ALL dogs.  They will ALL be neutered and spayed once they are healthy enough.  Then they can be placed in loving homes with big couches!

Michelle Dodd, the shelter director was raised with large breed dogs (danes and mastiffs).  The vet, Dr. Powell is amazing!  Thanks to the efforts of every employee at that shelter the dogs seized are still alive.

Unfortunately the laws concerning animal abuse are a joke.  I'm trying to get a group of people together to petition our elected officials to pass laws enforcing stricter punishments for our beloved 4 legged family members.



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I'm trying to find that out Connie.  I notified AKC when this all first played out, but I do think she needs to be suspended!


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There are other registries--unfortunately.  But obviously AKC carries the most respect.   
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um...found this today..don't know how current this is, but states she is in FL  http://www.puppypurebred.com/product_info.php/cPath/15_205/products_id/112

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