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We have so many valuable threads on this board about dog food that I thought it would be a good idea to post all the information here so we can access it easily.  Please feel free to cut and paste other threads here.  Thank you.

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Great idea Jann. Thanks!


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94-100+ = A
86-93 = B
78-85 = C
70-77 = D
69 = F

Here are some foods that have already been scored.

Dog Food scores:

Authority Harvest Baked / Score 116 = A+
Bil-Jac Select / Score 68 = F
Blue Buffalo / Score 114 = A+
Canidae All Life Stages Chicken & Rice / Score 94 = A
Canidae All Life Stages Lamb & Rice / Score 101 = A+
Canidae Platinum / Score 91 = B
Chicken Soup Senior / Score 115 = A+
Diamond Maintenance / Score 64 = F
Diamond Lamb Meal & Rice / Score 92 = B
Diamond Large Breed 60+ Formula / Score 99 = A
Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Ultra Premium / Score 122 = A+
Dick Van Patten's Duck and Potato / Score 106 = A+
Doctors Foster and Smith Adult Chicken & Brown Rice Formula / Score 101 = A+
Doctors Foster and Smith Adult Lamb & Brown Rice Formula / Score 102 = A+
Eagle Pack Holistic Select Large & Giant Breed Adult Formula / Score 101 = A+
Eagle Pack Super Premium Large & Giant Breed Puppy Formula / Score 97 = A
Eagle Pack Super Premium Natural Formula / Score 96 = A
Eukanuba Large Breed Puppy Formula / Score 82 = B
Foundations / Score 106 = A+
Hund-n-Flocken Adult Dog (lamb) by Solid Gold / Score 93 = B
Iams Lamb Meal & Rice Formula Premium / Score 73 = D
Innova Dog / Score 114 = A+
Innova Evo /Score 114 = A+
Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables (Costco brand) / Score 110 = A+
Natures Recipe Lamb Meal & Rice / Score 96 = A
Nutrisource Lamb and Rice / Score 87 = B
Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Puppy / Score 87 = B
Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Adult / Score 86 = B
Nutro Max Large Breed Adult / Score 85 = C
Pet Gold Adult with Lamb & Rice / Score 23 = F
Premium Edge Chicken, Rice & Vegetables / Score 111 = A+
Premium Edge Lamb, Rice & Vegetables / Score 110 = A+
Premium Edge Puppy Large Breed Lamb, Rice & Vegetable / Score 104 = A+
ProPlan Natural Turkey & Barley / Score 103 = A+
Purina Beneful / Score 17 = F
Purina Dog / Score 62 = F
Purina Come-n-Get It / Score 16 = F
Royal Canin Bulldog / Score 100 = A+
Royal Canin Large Breed Giant Adult Formula / Score 95 = A
Royal Canin Natural Blend Adult / Score 106 = A+
Sensible Choice Chicken and Rice / Score 97 = A
Science Diet Advanced Protein Senior 7+ / Score 63 = F
Science Diet for Large Breed Puppies / Score 69 = F
Wellness Fish & Sweet Potato (for skin & coat issues) / Score 108 = A+
Wellness Super5 Mix Chicken / Score 110 = A+
Wolfking Adult Dog (bison) by Solid Gold / Score 97 = A


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Great chart. I am trying the Wellness. After hearing about animal digest in the food I was going to do Dick Van Patten and raw. But found the Wellness at petco.


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Old post 06/30/08 at 08:19 PM Reply #1

OMG it just never stops does it!!! Merrick is a family ran company and apparently one or more of their workers are trying to shut them down.

There has been a NUMBER of complaints that have come through to the company about people finding numerous items in the canned food. Some of these items are potentially dangerous items such as batteries and hard plastic peices. The company is under watch!!!

I personally have been using Merrick can food for a long time now and have always been pleased with it. My dogs have always really liked it to. For the last week or so all my dogs have been really picky about eating and just the other day I actually found a hard plastic hair barrett in one of the cans of Merrick! So of course now I am avoiding this can food like the plague!! I to have alerted the company of my findings and have pulled it off my shelves!

I am just so disgusted with all the crap that is going on with dog food right now! I am currently feeding raw to my dogs who will eat it. Zahar however will not touch raw food with a ten foot pole, so he is currently eating California Natural and knock on wood so far everything is going great with this food.

So for those of you that use Merrick at all I would highly recommend you stop until they straighten things out or be really really careful!!

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i did the Solid Gold Wolfcub and got 105 - A+
Artemis -Fresh Mix Adult - 115 - A+
Artemis-Fresh Mix Med/Large breed Puppy - 114 - A+

i'm almost thru switching from the wolfcub to the artemis(1/2 adult and half puppy fresh mix) and, so far, so good ! jake is eating it and unless he gets several yummy chummies, his poops are nice and firm ! i can use the artemis for treats, but, i have 3 pounds of the yummy chummies i'm trying to use up !

gotta go- jake is telling me he either needs to go out, or, he wants his supper ! lol

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Hello All,

        Can anyone tell me what these scores are rated off of?

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Good Morning!
I know the link to dog food ratings was posted on this forum, somewhere (sorry it's early, no caffeine yet!), is it possible to post it on this thread?
That way, it is easily accessed?
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[nagdu] dog food grading system

hope that link comes thru ! i'll try to cut and paste it here,too.

hope this helps !

Here's the dog food grading system.  It is pretty straightforward.  
You'll have to have a list of ingredients available to you to do
this. That info should be available from Pet Food Direct or your
chosen food's web site. After the grading instructions there is
a list of foods that people have already tabulated a grade for.

HTH******Kibble Rating System:*How to grade your dog's food:
Start with a grade of 100:1) For every listing of "by-product",
subtract 10 points2) For every non-specific animal source
("meat" or "poultry", meat, meal orfat) reference, subtract
10 points3) If the food contains BHA, BHT, or ethoxyquin,
subtract 10 points4) For every grain "mill run" or non-specific
grain source, subtract 5points5) If the same grain ingredient
is used 2 or more times in the first fiveingredients
(I.e. "ground brown rice", "brewers rice", "rice flour"
areallthe same grain), subtract 5 points6) If the protein
sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2 meats in
the top 3 ingredients, subtract 3 points7) If it contains
any artificial colorants, subtract 3 points8 ) If it contains
ground corn or whole grain corn, subtract 3points9) If corn
is listed in the top 5 ingredients, subtract 2 more points10)
If the food contains any animal fat other than fish oil,
subtract 2points11) If lamb is the only animal protein source
(unless your dog is allergicto other protein sources),
subtract 2 points12) If it contains soy or soybeans, subtract
2 points13) If it contains wheat (unless you know that your
dog is not allergic towheat), subtract 2 points14) If it
contains beef (unless you know that your dog is not allergic
to beef), subtract 1 point15) If it contains salt, subtract
1 pointExtra Credit:1) If any of the meat sources are organic,
add 5 points2) If the food is endorsed by any major breed group
or nutritionist, add 5points3) If the food is baked not extruded,
add 5 points4) If the food contains probiotics, add 3 points5)
If the food contains fruit, add 3 points6) If the food contains
vegetables (NOT corn or other grains), add 3 points7) If the
animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free, add 2
points8 ) If the food contains barley, add 2 points9)
If the food contains flax seed oil (not just the seeds),
add 2 points10) If the food contains oats or oatmeal, add 1
point11) If the food contains sunflower oil, add 1 point12)
For every different specific animal protein source (other than
thefirstone; count "chicken" and "chicken meal" as only one
protein source, but"chicken" and "" as 2 different sources),
add 1 point13) If it contains glucosamine and chondroitin,
add 1 point14) If the vegetables have been tested for pesticides
and arepesticide-free, add 1 point Score:94-100+ = A 86-93 = B
78-85 = C 70-77 = D 69 and below = F Here are some foods that
have already been scored.Dog Food scores:Authority Harvest
Baked / Score 116 A+Bil-Jac Select / Score 68 FCanidae /
Score 112 A+Chicken Soup Senior / Score 115 A+Diamond Maintenance /
Score 64 FDiamond Lamb Meal & Rice / Score 92 BDiamond Large
Breed 60+ Formula / Score 99 ADick Van Patten's Natural Balance
Ultra Premium / Score 122 A+Dick Van Patten's Duck and Potato /
Score 106 A+Foundations / Score 106 A+Hund-n-Flocken Adult Dog
(lamb) by Solid Gold / Score 93 BIams Lamb Meal & Rice Formula
Premium / Score 73 DInnova Dog / Score 114 A+Innova Evo /
Score 114 A+Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables /
Score 110 A+Nutrisource Lamb and Rice / Score 87 BNutro Natural
Choice Large Breed Puppy / Score 87 BPet Gold Adult with Lamb &
Rice / Score 23 FProPlan Natural Turkey & Barley / Score 103
A+Purina Beneful / Score 17 FPurina Dog / Score 62 FPurina
Come-n-Get It / Score 16 FRoyal Canin Bulldog /
Score 100 A+Royal Canin Natural Blend Adult / Score 106 A+Sensible
Choice Chicken and Rice / Score 97 AScience Diet Advanced
Protein Senior 7+ / Score 63 FScience Diet for Large Breed
Puppies / Score 69 FWellness Super5 Mix Chicken / Score 110
A+Wolfking Adult Dog (bison) by Solid Gold /
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ok, don't know why it came through like that ! i think it will be easier to use the link to read it.

also, jake's been on the artemis long enough now for me to know this is the food for him !! i'm so happy ! his poop is finally firm all the time-unless he has lots of treats - and, he eats it most of the time. sometimes, he leaves a little, but, not often.

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Unread post Today at 05:11 PM Reply #1

This was on the local news tonite-Can't find it on
http://www.fda.gov "yet" but found it here----
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/stop--shop-alerts-customers/story.aspx?guid=%7BD966F01D-DD7C-48BA-AA8B-4461938FD6F7%7D&dist=hppr

QUINCY, Mass., Sept 12, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The Stop & Shop Supermarket Company, following a recall by MARS Petcare US, Inc., announced it is removing PEDIGREE(R) Small Crunchy Bites and PEDIGREE(R) Large Breed Complete Nutrition dry pet food products from sale. MARS Petcare has issued a national recall of these products because of potential contamination with Salmonella Schwarzengrund.
The following products are affected by this recall:
-- PEDIGREE(R) Small Crunchy Bites Adult Nutrition 4 pounds
UPC # 0-23100-05104
-- PEDIGREE(R) Small Crunchy Bites Adult Nutrition 8.8 pounds
UPC # 0-23100-14719
-- PEDIGREE(R) Small Crunchy Bites Adult Nutrition 32 pounds
UPC # 0-23100-31483
-- PEDIGREE(R) Large Breed Complete Nutrition 20 pounds
UPC # 0-23100-29158
Affected product can be identified by the letters PAE within "Best Before" ID Code on the product label [example = 808G1PAE01 12:00].
Animals infected with Salmonella Schwarzengrund may be lethargic and have diarrhea or bloody diarrhea, fever and vomiting. Some pets will only have decreased appetite, fever or abdominal pain. If your pet has consumed the recalled product and experiences any of the above symptoms, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recommends contacting your veterinarian



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Blue Buffalo / Score 114 = A+

This is what I feed.
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Thanks so very much for posting this! I am going to check into which of these I can find under the A's only of course!


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This is awesome information. Thanks for posting!!


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Hi,

Does anyone have any experience with Life's Abundance Holistic food?  The rescue where we adopted our girl swears by it and I would like to see if there is more information on it out there and on this forum.  Any insigt would be greatly appreciated.

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Hi everyone!  I have a question for you all, My mastiff Tobit has hives do to allergic reaction to Iams, pedigree, we have switched him to Eagle Pack large breed food.  Will Eagle pack food help him get rid of his hives or what food do you recommend to help his skin problem??  Thank you so very much!!!!
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I was told last Friday by the local pet store that Eagle Pack is moving some (all?) of their manufacturing offshore, and as a result the local pet store was no longer carrying EPH on their shelves.

FYI.

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Greetings all.  The rating information for the various dog food brands was quite interesting. I found the website that has this information plus the rating instructions are also there: http://www.the-puppy-dog-place.com/dog-food-ratings.html

So I am about to get my Mastiff pup from Jann in about a month and I am sure she will fill me in on this, but I am posing the question to the forum.  For a large breed puppy such as a Mastiff, I have heard we need to be concerned about the amount of protein they consume, specifcally keeping it to 21 - 25% max protein.  Is this an accurate statement?  What is the best puppy food for a Mastiff?  What about Glucosmine within the food vs. supplemental pills?

I was shocked when I saw that Science Diet got an F on the score card. This is what I have been feeding my Lab/Mastiff mix for all his life (He is about 7).  He has a very sensative digestive system and this food seems to always leave him with solid poops; changing his food has always had bad affects so I am unsure of if I should pursue another brand or not...

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More recently, studies have been showing that protein is not an issue for dogs. In fact, too little protein has been shown to possibly stunt growth.  What they've realized is that puppies cannot control their absorption of calcium, and when we feed a high calcium food (which often accompanies a high protein food, unless specifically formulated otherwise), we see growth disorders.  Before switching to raw, I fed a food with over 40% protein with no ill-effects.  I think a moderate level of protein (25-30%) is perfectly appropriate, as long as the calcium level is around 1.5% or below, or about 4 g per ever 1000 calories.
http://www.dogworld.co.za/info/health_check/Nutrition_Large_Breed.pdf

http://www.heartypet.com/blog/?p=66

http://www.hilarywatson.com/puppies.pdf

http://www.beechmountanhosp.ca/feedinglgebreed.html

http://www.thensome.com/hod.htm

https://www.msu.edu/~silvar/hips.htm

http://www.doglogic.com/debaunprotein.htm

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/134/8/2151S

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12421852






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We feed raw to 3 out of 4 of our Mastiffs.  The fourth is on the Show trail and he is now eating Timberwolf the formula without grain.  It has very high quality ingredients and he has no poop issues.  He too has had sensitive digestive issues but Carrie says he is doing well on this new food.

I especially like the fact that it is NOT BAKED at high temps like other kibble but extruded at a low slow temp.  Keeps those nutrients in tact.

But of course I believe in raw all the way if possible.
Just mentioning because I know some folks really can't get behind raw but they will do a good quality kibble.
  There is a very good yahoo group raw feeding.  For beginners and they have great ideas on how to get the necessary meat, organs etc.

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There are some brands there available in Australia, but would be great if we could do such a good job on all the varieties offered over here, and have them listed with a grading. Sure does take out the bias certain vets have when they propose a certain food. Thanks guys
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Ditto on the high calcium.  I've noted of late that a couple of manufacturers have produced grain-free, high-protein formulas with calcium levels more in line with typical foods.  For instance, Fromm's 4-Star Surf N Turf has 30% protein but only 1% calcium. 

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I don't if anyone else has had problems with their mastiff scratching too much.  I finally found a good food that solved the problem.  The brand name is Call of the Wild.  I feed my mastiff the Bison and Venison version.

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I have been doing a lot of research on new dog food and was talking to our local holistic pet food company owner and he told me that Wellness is staying the same but merging with Eagle Pak and Innova has been bought out by PG and will be their new high end line with Iams and Eukanuba?  Does anyone know if this is true? 

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