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In humans we keep them under our tongue until dissolved.
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Unless they're absorbed through the capillaries in the mouth and somehow enter the stomach to relieve the pressure, they won't do a thing if the stomach is twisted.


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Steven, Steven, Steven .... we are talking about the mysteries of homeopathy here.
It will help with stomach bloating - passing gas.
Now if you want to take on the credibility of homeopathy go right ahead but it will not hurt the dog and probably costs $7 for a hundred pills - to keep it handy just in case you need it.
Many vets use homeopathy so it's not just for wing nuts like myself LOL



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I'm not detracting from it's efficacy, just stating the obvious!

If it can't get into the stomach, it can't help!

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"Above all, a uniform type should be aimed at by breeders and uniformity of type can only exist in a proportionate ratio in the purity and distinctiveness in any breed"!.........M. Moore
"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well." Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything...Catherine McMillan
" A reinforced consolidation of the American and British standards could be the basis for restoring our breed to the gladiatorial glory of its ancient past, in capability if not in usage".....Norman Howard Carp-Gordon
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A response from Dr. M. Pletcher who was involved with a study on bloat at Purdue.

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Dear Steve,

Your description makes sense to me but I am completely unqualified to provide an opinion about it.  I am a geneticist by training and profession and don't really deal with the physiology of the disease.  A vet would be a much better person to ask.

Thanks for sharing this with me though.

Mat


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"Above all, a uniform type should be aimed at by breeders and uniformity of type can only exist in a proportionate ratio in the purity and distinctiveness in any breed"!.........M. Moore
"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well." Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything...Catherine McMillan
" A reinforced consolidation of the American and British standards could be the basis for restoring our breed to the gladiatorial glory of its ancient past, in capability if not in usage".....Norman Howard Carp-Gordon
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http://pets.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1476592120.cms

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Goats-3480/Bloating-miniature-goats.htm

The possible connection............

http://www.moldpets.org/Mycotoxin%20FAQ.htm


The possible preventative...............

Calcium Montmorillonite

See Eileen's thread ..."Let's get dirty"!

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"Above all, a uniform type should be aimed at by breeders and uniformity of type can only exist in a proportionate ratio in the purity and distinctiveness in any breed"!.........M. Moore
"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well." Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything...Catherine McMillan
" A reinforced consolidation of the American and British standards could be the basis for restoring our breed to the gladiatorial glory of its ancient past, in capability if not in usage".....Norman Howard Carp-Gordon
"I can live with doubt, or not knowing, rather than to have answers that might be wrong"...Richard Feynman
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Not sure how to word this as to not come across as sounding rude but does anyone know how long it takes for a dog to surcome to bloat?  Just asking so I know if my Diesel shows signs how long I have to get him to the vet?  My vet is about 30 min away but there is a vet that is about 4 min away.  I don't know much about this, my neigbor's dog died from bloat but he was on a chain with a dog house and they found him already passed away.

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http://www.mrcrottweiler.org/updates/bloat1.pdf

http://www.mrcrottweiler.org/updates/bloat2.pdf


Required reading!

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"Above all, a uniform type should be aimed at by breeders and uniformity of type can only exist in a proportionate ratio in the purity and distinctiveness in any breed"!.........M. Moore
"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well." Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything...Catherine McMillan
" A reinforced consolidation of the American and British standards could be the basis for restoring our breed to the gladiatorial glory of its ancient past, in capability if not in usage".....Norman Howard Carp-Gordon
"I can live with doubt, or not knowing, rather than to have answers that might be wrong"...Richard Feynman
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I have a question.  We rescued our boy about a year ago now.  he is around 7.  The group we got him from insisted that we raise his food and only feed dry to avoid the Bloat.  Reading the study, that I thank you very much for posting, states basically the opposite. Please tell me if i have read this right.  We should get rid of the raised bowl. Keep the three smaller meals and maybe add a bit if water to the food. Please be blunt and let me know if I am on the right track  Thank You.

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You read it right. You may also want to purchase the bowl that has obstructions in it, as that seems to prevent rapid eating.


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"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well." Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything...Catherine McMillan
" A reinforced consolidation of the American and British standards could be the basis for restoring our breed to the gladiatorial glory of its ancient past, in capability if not in usage".....Norman Howard Carp-Gordon
"I can live with doubt, or not knowing, rather than to have answers that might be wrong"...Richard Feynman
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bump for life!


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"Above all, a uniform type should be aimed at by breeders and uniformity of type can only exist in a proportionate ratio in the purity and distinctiveness in any breed"!.........M. Moore
"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well." Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything...Catherine McMillan
" A reinforced consolidation of the American and British standards could be the basis for restoring our breed to the gladiatorial glory of its ancient past, in capability if not in usage".....Norman Howard Carp-Gordon
"I can live with doubt, or not knowing, rather than to have answers that might be wrong"...Richard Feynman
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