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clarify, i will only supplement if need be.. i dont always have to : )


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Any time our girls get mastitis we remove the pups completely, we learned this after a pup lost an eye due to the infected milk.  It is also very painful and I think the girls appreciate not having pups climbing on those inflamed teats.

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http://www.askdrsears.com/html/2/T022200.asp

 

 

http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/breeding/mastitis.htm


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Folds can also be caused by various virus or infections. 

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Okay, I am totally confused....I just came back from a CERF vet. He found scarring on the back of the cornea of one of my babies. He said it was ppm. I asked if there were any of the membranes left and he said no, yet he checked the ppm box. He said the only thing that can cause scarring on the back of the cornea is ppms and it leaves a small scar where they were once attached. The vision was not affected at all, but none the less, it is a nonpassing cerf. However, he went on to say that it was okay to breed as long as it was to a non-affected mate. I am totally confused now...btw, it was a lens to cornea ppm. Any thoughts? I had planned on breeding this baby when the time comes, and quite frankly, with all the differing opinions, I am still leaning towards breeding, but just being cautious to breed to an unaffected mate...Would appreciate opinions!!

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Teresa,

 

I kept my mouth shut about this topic on the other board, because of the "participants" involved, however, I feel "safe" posting what I'd like to say  here.  The severity of PPM in Mastiffs was grossly exxagerated on that other board, and so much misinformation was given.  No CERF vet is going to tell you that a mild PPM is anything to worry about, because it's NOT.  Just don't double up on it when you breed.  The ranting and raving on this subject on that other board was done with the intention of defamation of a specific kennel (and owners), and to cause harm to their dogs' reputation.  Did you notice that NO ONE came back with the CERF vet's explanation?  It's because there was none.  Not only was the PPM information on that board inaccurate, but some of it was very outdated (like 9 yrs outdated).  Before the PRA gene was found, there was a theory among some breeders (some involved with health research) that PPM was linked to PRA and if you bred several generations of it, you would get blindness b/c of PPM causing PRA.  However, that was proven NOT TO BE THE CASE.  PPM and PRA are NOT linked!  So, your CERF vet was correct.  Listen to the experts, not ranting and raving lunatics whose sole purpose in life is to trash other breeders. 

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Thanks Kristen...yes, I know what you mean about the hysteria on the other board. I would have been terrified to ask anything on that board about this.

   I was dissappointed it is not a passing cerf though. However, it will be something that I won't double up on and will be honest about. I think the danger lies in not telling the truth. If everyone covers up health issues, we can't know that we are doubling up on bad things. Honesty is something that can only benefit this breed!! To me, the mark of a good breeder is one that is honest and cares about the breed. No Mastiff is perfect, but if we know what we need to breed away from, we are one step closer towards improving the breed overall. Okay, I'll step off my soap box now!!!

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Halleluja!!!!  I was one of those that asked pointed questions on the other board because the HEAT was so intense anytime the PPM letters came up. and I wanted to understand.... Took a few hiny wipings "oh and that's putting it nicely...." for me to figure out I was not going to get any answers other than....well, most of us know.   It is nice to finally have some talk and even insight about it!!!  Possible prevention - hey what a concept..!  Thank you all for being honest and sharing!!  Here's to the generations of puppies that we will better serve by helping each other!


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Bumping to save thread
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Dogs the don't pass one year with scarring from PPM's can very well pass the next year with beautiful eyes and no scarring.  My girl is proof of that.  I for one do not worry over much about PPM's and most likely won't until they have found out once and for all what causes them.  Although I will be cautious about who I breed to CERF wise as I am with other testing.  My one experience with PPM's on my girl we think may have been caused by the antibiotics given for a bout of pneumonia that the litter had or by the virus itself as all the puppies had them and no previous litter of the same breeding did.  And all the puppies of that one litter have since grown up and passed their CERF's with flying colors.  I wonder what would happen if we tested ourselves as much as we test our dogs.  I have had a girl with PRA so am very familiar with that area and was able to trace back through her pedigree to find the culprit, although not much was known about it at that time.  And now because of that will always be on the watch out for PRA DNA testing.

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Bump  re: the mastitis thread.

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bump-
anything more recent available on PPM , that anyone has heard?


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