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Can anyone recommend a nice shampoo and conditioner?  Thank you.

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I personally like the Plush Puppy brand stuff.

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Jann,

 

I moved away from the "dog" shampoos and went to people hair shampoos. I found the dog shampoos to be expensive and they didn't lather very well, i.e., I used more... I have been using Johnson's Baby's Shampoo (or the generic).  It is soft and gentle and you can also scrub up their little drooly faces without worrying about stinging their eyes.  Cosco and the big container - cost effective and works great.

 

Okay, here's another and I used it just the other day - its Treseme' shampoo and conditioner - people stuff again.  He smelled so good and was soooo soft - still is!!  Had to make sure I kept it away from his eyes tho.  Would be great for mastiffs with more course fur.

 

Last - I have heard that Head and Shoulders works great on dogs with itchy skin...


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I use dawn soap for when they are dirty  I also used it in my grooming shop when I was grooming. all my clients really like the Fresh and Clean shampoo.  When I am showing the Cavaliers I use Prell (people shampoo) on them and Mane and Tail on the shorthairs.  I really like the Prell.  I am going to try the Prell conditioner next when I groom the cavaliers for show. I use alot of people products on the dogs.  You will just need to try different things and use what you like and what works well for you. I haven't been real impressed with the Mane and Tail on the mastiffs so I am going to try the Prell on them.

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Pert Plus works great!  The conditioner in it makes them shiney and they smell yummy!

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Must be a myth that people shampoos are bad for dogs because of the perfumes? 

I see pet shampoos are now made w/ fancy scents, and I trust the above groomers (sorry, forgot name) advice that I have been lead astray? lol.

 

I got some from my vet they said would not ruin the flea meds.  Its the pearlyt shampoo by DVM.  It works fine.

 

I always dilute the shampoo in a large plastic cup of warm water first, it lathers easier and you use less shampoo.

 

I have heard great things about the Ferminator. Not just the brush but liked the shampoo & conditioner as well.  Although most people felt the brush alone w/ a cheaper shampoo was just as good.

*cheapest furminator I've found so far is 43$'s on entirelypets.com.  Thats cheaper than the 60-70$'s some sell for.!

 

Kim, Khloe & the new rescue Sturgis.

 

 


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I use baby shampoo (for human babies) for bathing older puppies, and use baby wash for little puppies.  For my adults, I use any good quality dog shampoo - there are tons on the market.  I like to use JB Pet Supply's Almond Conditioner/Cream Rinse.  It leaves them smelling so nice. 

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Last year I bought Pet Edge's Christmas Sugar Cookie Shampoo - my dogs all smelled so sweet. 

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Okay - moving beyond shampoo - can we talk about BATHS.....

When we built our house we put in a mud room which is connected to our only "room" downstairs which is our family room.  The mud room opens a door into the family room onto a slab of tile which is right next to the bathroom and a tub with a removable shower head - all about cleaning off the dogs.... and this designed and thought about pre-mastiffs.....

Well, it works fine with the labs - they jump in, fit and are pretty coordinated.

Not so good with Monty and the puppies have to be lifted in and out - not so good on my back....  Its a tub and its already too small for Monty.  The pups, well it'll work for awhile, but I've got to come up with something else.

It would be nice just to have warm water outside.

How do you all bath your dogs?


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Monica,

 

I bathe both of my boy Mastiffs in a regular bathroom tub.  They LOVE to get in the tub, and in fact, I have to keep the bathroom doors closed or Sinatra can often be found waiting and hoping in one of the tubs.  LOL  They hop in on command and "stand stay." 

 

I also have the "Booster Bath" for dogs, and I bathe my poodle & Bling in there.  We had a concrete area w/ drain made in the basement for doggy baths, and this is where my booster tub is.  It really does help w/ the sore back issue...but the big boys aren't real keen on jumping up in it.  Bling, who thinks she's a poodle, just springs right up there. 

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Hi all, I have used horse shampoo and one of the best is one called Equess brand shampoo, it's in a black container and it is kinda expensive but you only need only a little, when the backyard gets what I call mucky, I use it on their feet when they come inside because it really cleans them good. i also had a grooming shop and in the winter here it gets so wet and it really was good for deep cleaning some of the different breeds coats like cockers etc. I use baby wipes for the dog ears and a drop of dawn if their oily.

 Our first mastiff would walk to the bathroom and get in the tub when I said he needed a bath. All my other ones I bathe outside with a hose in the summer and winter they go in the tub inside, one thing that helped is taking the pups in the bathroom while bathing the older ones and that's when I show them the blow dryer. I use the orange 4 hp dryer and Hoss loves it.  Lauri

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Oh Kristen, now I am pouting ;-)  When I say bath Monty runs the other direction!!  He HATES the tub downstairs!!  The pups are okay with water, better than Monty.  We'll see if they beg for baths as they get older... its in their line ;-)!  I put Monty in my shower last time, on the ground and large - it took forever to rinse him - no hand held!!  That woud actually be a huge solution is to just put a hand held in my shower!

Lauri - blow dryers.... man - I gotta get movin!!  I'm thinking about rigging a warm water something or other out front so I can just wash them on the driveway.  Sighh!


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My MIL who is a vet says NOT to use human shampoo on dogs ever because it is made for a different ph level then what they are. She says that it has a tendency to make the skin way to dry and that alot of dogs that she sees with allergies are bathed in human shampoo and that when the owners starts using actual dog shampoo then the allergies go away or at least get better. Have any of you had that problem? She says that if you can't get dog shampoo then then the best way to go is dawn.
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I have never had that problem.  To the contrary .... I have a lab with allergies and have tried every expensive dog shampoo around for him and nothing helps.  The human shampoo ( I like baby shampoo) never makes it worse.  I would think Dawn would dry them out a bit..  I almost always use a bit of conditioner too.  I like the baby shampoo because its gentle and won't sting their eyes and let's face it - mastiffs need their squishy faces cleaned ;-)

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I have heard the same thing about the ph and so I have not used human shampoo but I think if you notice your dog having problems then you can change but if you don't bathe them real often then maybe it might be ok.

  Mine do love the blow dryer and it makes it nice because they dry alot faster and it's really good for checking their skin out. Now trimming nails is another story for mine, Hoss and Harlee are fine and Moana but Leo is horrible, one time I got his dew claw to short and ever since then he fights like crazy and the vets don't have a big enough muzzle, sooo i got some acepromazine from the vet so I can do it, after a bath is best because their nails are softer.                   Lauri

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"sooo i got some acepromazine from the vet"

 

Lauri - If this is for a Mastiff...PLEASE...do not use Ace.  Mastiffs do not do well with this and MANY have died as a result of using Ace.  Yes, some have been ok...but Many, Many have not.  Many vets do not know this and it is one of the main reasons to have a Mastiff savvy vet...anesthesia.

 

As for grooming -

We bathe in or out depending on the weather...since we are in the rainy PNW...it is hard to get them clean if they are knee deep in mud while getting their bath.    For outdoors we have warm water that runs to our deck and we bathe them there.  We also use a doggie blow dryer (Double K) and the dogs love it.  We have to lock them off the deck and do one at a time or none get dry!  For indoors we use the regular tub.  We have done this for years no matter what size the dog.  But we start when they are puppies and they learn stand, stay and turn.  They get dryer action in the tub, too. 

I really prefer outdoors if I am going to bathe more than a few...my back prefers the outdoors as well.  If we are doing a complete bathing rotation (all dogs) I will let them all out, rinse them all down (one at a time) then soap them all up (one at a time) then rinse them all off (one at a time).  This leaves the soap on them for about 7-10min each.  Any shampoo that is left on for 7-10min will kill any fleas that may be on the dogs.  It doesn't repel, etc...but when we are traveling to shows, etc and going to be in more flea friendly environments...it works great.  I can bathe all 14 Mastiffs in under an hour in this assembly line method!  But, it only works in good weather!


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thank you Jamie, our vet is Mastiff savy, fortunetly Leo has been on ace before and did fine, but you are right it's not for every Mastiff. Lauri

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Ahhh - thanks Jamie - I did not think about the deck. Ours is gated off and right off the kitchen, plus its trek decking, no splinters, can handle water forever, plus the dogs really can't scratch it, and there's an overhang if its raining!! Outside is much easier on my back. I could even hook up some warm water out there..... You've got me thinking...

I also prefer to do all the dogs at once - wash their bedding, etc.

How do you guys introduce the blow dryer?


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The Double K dryer that we have does not produce 'heat' except for what is generated by the friction of the motor...there is no actual heater like there is in a human's hairdryer.  I don't know if all dog dryers are this way.  It also has a low setting that is as much like a directed fan as anything.  When I start the puppies...I do it in the bathroom with the dryer outside of the door to keep the majority of the noise outside of the bathroom.  I use the low setting and start by directing the flow of air at the ground around them and working up their legs and body...petting them all the time.  I stay away from their head and ears.  All of our guys LOVE the dryer and we use it for everything from actual drying after a bath...blowing hair out at shedding time...blowing sand or dust out of their coats in between baths...or just for fun!  It is like a body massage for them...our old girl actually makes a 'purring' sound she is soooo happy to be blow dried! 


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Boy, you all get fancy - blow drying your Masties!    I've never blow-dried ours except when we'd go to the equine pool (in Maryland) during the winter.  Louie is deathly afraid of the blow dryer.  I've always just towel dried....but I know with a good force dryer, you can really get all the dead hair out well.

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I have never had a problem with the humane shampoos drying out the dogs or the dawn.  I use a velocity blower on my dogs - I love it!

I have a raised bathtub in my grooming with stairs for the dogs. Even though I only groom once in awhile I am glad that I have the shop at our place

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We use Murphy's Oil Soap. We get the super sized bottles at Sam's. Cheap, works great at cutting the dirt and grime and leaves their coats shinny and soft. Does kinda make them smell like furniture polish for a couple of days though, LOL.


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My boys absolutely LOVE bathtime!  When it is warm outside, I hook the hose up to our outside shower so they can have a warm bath.  For the most part, I use Head & Shoulders shampoo (I think it was Lisa Filu I have to thank for that suggestion).  It works great keeping the after bath dandruff down.  Both boys love to dry themselves by rolling in the grass.  When it gets colder, we have our baths in the house.  Unfortunately, our living quarters are rather small and we do not have a bathtub.  Believe it or not, it is quite simple to give a well-trained 247 lb dog a thorough scrubbing & rinsing in a 30" square shower stall.  I only wish that sweet Bea was as bright as his doggy daddy in that regard.  As long as there is a non-skid mat on the floor, it only takes a heartfelt "You stink! Go get in the shower!" to send him running for the bathroom.  He walks right in, turns around, sits and awaits instructions. (Bea walks straight in, his nose hits the wall, and he sits with his butt on the floor outside the shower - he just can't figure out how to turn around).  We wash the backside first.  Homer will stand with his front end outside the shower while I wet down & wash his rear.  Then he sits inside the shower while I wash the rest of him.  Rinse him off  & run him outside for a shake and we have a clean Princess again!


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