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MASTIFF WEIGHT CHART
Male / Female (in lbs)

8 wks 29/24
9 wks 33/29
10 wks 36/32
11 wks 40/36
3 months 45/39
4 months 60/50
5 months 80/65
6 months 100/80
7 months 125/90
8 months 140/100
9 months 155/110
10 months 165/112
11 months 170/115
12 months 175/120
13 months 180/122
14 months 185/125
15 months 188/125
16 months 189/125
17 months 190/127
18 months 192/127
2 years 205/135
30 months 210/140
3 years 215 - 225/155 - 180
4 years 220 - 230/160 - 190
5 years 220 - 235 170 - 200

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How many mastiffs match this chart during growth without being fat??


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Cider was under this weight chart until about 12 weeks and then she was consistently about 10 lbs over. She was on the thin side. Her sisters were about 5-10lbs heavier than Cid at any given time and they were on the skinny side as well. Cider ended up being an average size girl (167-170lbs). It seems like a lot of pups are over this but then end up being small or average in size and vice versa. Just really depends on the line. It's a very very VERY rough estimate.

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Giselle,
It would probably make more sense to have a range for males and females, i.e.:

                        Males                     Females
8 wks              24-29                      19-24

etc....


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I was just reading thru some of these bumped charts.  I just realized that Monty was about 20 pounds when he was 8 weeks.  He is now 11 mos and I have no idea what he weighs but I bet it is somewhere between 160 and 170.

Dreamer and George were blow the scale and only about 17 pounds at 8 weeks but are now above it. 

It is interesting to see how they grow and like Giselle said, I do think it really depends on the line.  Dreamer is 2 pounds heavier than George right now, but he is growing taller...


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Of the 3 mastiffs I have had, not one was EVER in line with this chart.


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Hermes and Purdy both stay on this line very well.  They have massive bone so I keep them on the thinner side and even then they hit the chart right where they should be.  Purdy hits the higher side of the girls at 3 years and Hermes hits the middle of boys at 4 years.  When they go to the vets here in town where they don't know mastiffs very well they say need to go on diets that they are too fat.  Yea right...sometimes I think I keep them a little too thin but I would rather have them be able to run in the yard with out extra strain on their joints and such. 

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Personally, I hate when these charts are published (in books). It really makes some of the novice owners panic when their puppy doesn't "exactly" follow it.

I also wonder if this chart accounts for intentionally trying to slow the growth rate? Do these weights credit lean dogs? Chunky dogs?


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Geri,

 

When kept lean;  how have the homer sons been comparing to this chart?

 

Kim,

 

How did the big guy himself compare to this chart as a pup?


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I have to agree Geri - I poked my nose into this thread and went - oh no, the pups were well below the standard weight when they were eight weeks - it can actually make a novice think they might need to over feed or beef up a growing puppy....

I'm glad we have it here and that this discussion has taken place on this thread.


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My Homer baby (male) is about 6 lbs under the chart (at 7-8mos)

He isn't at all chunky- much more on the lean side!

I think a normalizing "range"or Bell curve would definitely help avoid the "panic" for owners concerned that their dog isn't matching the chart.

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Clinton,

 

Homer fit fairly well into this scale, with a few exceptions.

He was pretty close (as memory serves) during the 8-11 week stage.

I remember him being around 65 lbs @ 15 weeks.  He was around 185 when he finished his CH at just under 15 months.  Then he started filling out.  At 19 months he was 199 lbs.  It was all downhill from there though!  He really didn't start going way off the chart until the 20-25 month time frame.  He put on 40+ lbs that winter. 

 

Up to around 16 months, I would have considered him to be relatively lean.  While he was in the gawky teenage stage 5-10 months, I thought he was actually a bit too skinny.  Now the poor Princess is just simply tubby, but very, very sweet!


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He was pretty close (as memory serves) during the 8-11 week stage.

*** I can fill in some of the gaps. At 8 weeks, Homer was 24 lbs, Charlie was 22 lb, and Piper was 21 lbs. I believe their birth weights were 1 lb 10 oz, 1 lb 8 oz and 1 lb 4 oz :-)

 

I remember him being around 65 lbs @ 15 weeks.  He was around 185 when he finished his CH at just under 15 months. 

*** I remember 180 lb at 14 months. Clifford on the other hand was 180 lb at 12 months.

 

*** This one was at almost 13 months.

 

*** Then this one at 14.5 months. I remember 180 here.

 

At 19 months he was 199 lbs. 

*** I remember this, and here's the pic you sent me at 19 months.

 

It was all downhill from there though!  He really didn't start going way off the chart until the 20-25 month time frame. 

*** Yes and no. At 25 months, I can't remember if he was 225 or 235, it was one of two. I just remember that we scratched him at the working show for being FAT. I also recall somewhere in the 24-30 month range is when he went through another major growth spurt and shot up nearly two inches in a short time.

 

Karen D took this picture of him at 25 months after we scratched him from the working show.

 

Verses here's another at 36 months after gaining the height.

 

Now the poor Princess is just simply tubby, but very, very sweet!

*** As his breeder/co-owner, I am happy with his actual weight right now of 247. He doesn't need to loose anymore, he needs to run up and down that hill in your backyard a few times per day and tone up. He isn't fat, he just has next to no muscle.

 

This last picture (41 months) he is still chubby, but included this one too, just because I like this picture LOL.


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That was great to see with the weights attached Geri.  I love to see how these guys/gals fill out - its amazing!!  Homer is not as leggy as Monty but he had some legs in his youth....  I like seeing how he filled out - even if he's a bit tubby ;-)

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Awesome writeup geri and kim.  How tall is the person in the 36mo picture?

 

Just send him to me and the the demon will help tone those muscles with sprints through the house and yard and multiple heavy sets of tug of war!!


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<< I love to see how these guys/gals fill out - its amazing!!  Homer is not as leggy as Monty but he had some legs in his youth....  I like seeing how he filled out - even if he's a bit tubby ;-) >>

 

Aside from a novice may worry if their puppy isn't exactly matching the chart, different lines grow differently.


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How tall is the person in the 36mo picture?

*** A bit better then 6' (and 260 lbs). They should exercise together:-)


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Geri, I'm not sure what you meant with your last two posts....  I hope I didn't offend you.  My point is that as a youngster and not fully matured Homer's legs were more "pronounced" and I enjoy seeing a dog fill out.  I doubt Monty will ever have the body bulk and type (due to his line)  that Homer has but it is nice to visualize some more bulk on him after he matures ;-).  When I see age progression pics it helps me visualize a bit.

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Oh gawd Monica, I wasn't offended in the least! I was simply saying that different lines grow differently, referring to my distaste of the weight charts! I LOVE when there are threads that show a dog through many growth stages. Wish those threads were done more often.

 

As for my next post, we all (aka those who know Homer) pick on him for being a bit chubby:-)

 

 


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Okay, good cause I thinks he's a great boy!  I do wish more people would post age progression pics too.  In fact there is a thread on here - I'll go dig it up and bump it and see if anyone posts.

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Geri,

 

I think he must have been at least 235lbs in that picture.  I checked through some old emails & found that he was 247 lbs in June 05 (I think that pic was in March).

 

BTW, I absolutely love that last pic of my sweet baby at the Slobber-by-the-Sea - even if hubby wasn't thrilled about standing out in the pouring rain so Kim Morrell could take the picture.  Thanks again for that photo, Kim!


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Hi Kim,

 

You are absolutely correct. 6/05, he was 247 on Tom's scale. Here's some snap shots I took of him that week. To put this in perspective, Phoebe was then about 165 lbs and just under 29". He totally dwarfed her!



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Geri,

Can you email me those pics?  I've never seen them before! 


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