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Just as an FYI...As of August 2005 the ONLY microchips that are accepted by the Canadian Kennel Club for registration are ones purchased through them or one of 4 accepted manufacturers.  It does not matter if the chip is an ISO chip or not if the chip is not from one of the approved vendors.  This includes the Home Again chip, the Avid Eurochip, etc.  Avid Canada does have a chip that qualifies...but you have to get it from Avid Canada...NOT the US Avid company.  All chips are able to be read up there...but if you sell a puppy to Canada and they are going to register it with the CKC...be sure it is chipped with the correct chip.


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Cooper has an Avid chip.  It was super easy to have done..I don't even think he felt it.  An my vet said it was the most popular brand of chip and that most vets and animal shelters have a scanner.


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How many breeders chip their own dogs/puppies. How much does it cost vs. having the vet place the chip?  I'm thinking about making the investment.

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I don't remember exactly how much my vet charged to do it but I know it was less than $30.  I was actually shocked on how cheap it actually was. 


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Jan, We do our own and it runs between $12-$13 each depending on the chip and of course the Canadian ones are in Canadian funds.  We have chipped every litter and have never had one migrate, etc.  (We check our own dogs frequently just to see.)
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I had my personal dogs chipped at the vet for about $40 each.

 

I purchased the chips for my puppies at about $10-15 each, I bought a larger pack so I believe it was a little cheaper.  I had every intention of putting them in, and having my vet tech friend help - but once they arrived I freaked.  NO WAY I was doing that to my babies, lol!  So - I called the vet, and begged her to put them in on their initial visit.  She thankfully complied, and didn't charge me anything to do so.  (Of course, this was after having a c-section there, and having been a customer for many a year).

 

I think it is great to be able to provide this already done to puppy families - and is very important for identification purposes.  We used the AVID chips.

 

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Part of the cost of doing it yourself is the reader - making sure the chip you are inserting is the number it is marked, as well as making sure that you can read the chip once it is inserted.

 

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LOL, Heather!  I am with you...the needle is HUGE!  I hold and my husband does the chips.  However, I am absolutely amazed at how well the puppies do.  Very rarely to they even notice what is being done. 

I guess I should have stated, too...we use the Avid chips as well...when I said depending on the chip I was referring to the Avid Canada chips.  When we first started doing them the Avid chips were about $10...the last ones we bought were $12.95 if I remember correctly. 


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Does anyone have a website where the reader and the chips can be purchased?  I'd like to use the most popular brand that is recognized the most.  Thanks!



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Hello,

 

Chipping the pups is only the first half.  My vet did the insertion on their puppy check up and first shots.  I also registered the microchips (Home Again).  There is a litter discount--I think $9 versus $12 per puppy--at least 4 years ago.  I am down as the first contact and the puppy buyer the second.  The owner, of course, gets the tags and a copy of the paperwork that Home Again sends once they are registered.  That way, I'm sure that the chip has been registered and should one of the pups get lost or turned into a shelter or Rescue group, they have a way of contacting the breeder.

 

I have had a few families move out of CA and attempt to change the registration so they are first contact.  Home Again will not do that without my permission.  I don't think it will be very long before AKC requires micro chipping before registering a puppy.  They really should require a DNA profile for sire and dam before registering a litter.

 

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Jan - We use the Avid Euro Chip.  You can order it through Avid US at: https://avidmicrochip.securelook.com/order.htm .  For your first order, however, you will need to contact them via phone to obtain a customer number.  They are very nice and you can also order by phone.  They are also very good at getting the orders to you quickly.  For those puppies that may be registered in Canada we use the Avid Canada chip as required by CKC for registrations.  You can order them directly from Avid Canada and their website is: http://www.avidcanada.com/contact.html .  You will need to contact them and they will send you the price list via email.  If you are a member of the CKC you can also order chips directly from them.


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Caroline,

 

I can understand your point - but I opted to be second contact for my puppy families.  My reasoning was this - those are the people who are going to know the dog is missing.  If something happened, I know they would call me - but would be panicked and out searching for their baby, whom I might not initially even know is gone.  Also - they are the folks in the local area, and could immediately go and retrieve said dog.  Plus - they could be calling all the local places with a description of the dog, and would know what those places are.   

 

I realize from a rescue/rehoming standpoint having yourself first is important - however, I guess continued communication with puppy families is a way I try to alleviate those types of concerns?

 

There is no right or wrong way, as I feel the chipping and registering in and of itself is the most important factor of all.

 

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http://www.lambriarvetsupply.com/Pet-Identification-Home-Again.php

 

This is where I buy my micro-chips from.  They are 20.99 each, however it is buy one get one free.  So for 20.99 you get two.  Shipping is pretty cheap too.  I order them when the puppies are 4 weeks old.  When the pups go for their 6 week check up- the tech and I sit and make the health certificates.  All of my puppies are marked with ribbons, so we write the ribbon color on the health certificate.  As the vet does vaccines, I unwrap the chip and get it ready.  Each chip comes with 4 stickers with the chip number on it.  So I immediately put a sticker on the appropriate health certificate.  Then when I get home, I put another sticker on the contract.  I then fill out the form.  When the owners come, they write a check to home again for 17.50.  This way I know it is getting mailed in, and I know that I am listed as alternate contact!

The avid scanner (that my vet has) will read the home again chip.  My vet does not charge me extra for doing this, but even if he charged me a few extra bucks I wouldn’t care.  I used to have it in my contract that it needed to be done by the owner, but I never knew if I was alternate contact, it was a chore calling everyone making sure it was done, (not that calling my puppy buyers is a chore, I just wanted to make sure the chip was getting in) and lastly everyone was complaining about price.  Some vets here in MI charge $50! 

This last time I didn’t order them in time, they got here the afternoon of my vet appointment L but I sent a chip home with everyone.  So far no-ones vet has charged them to put it in, and I still know what number goes with what puppy.  Lastly Home again also knows what numbers I have purchased for there records, so if by chance no one sends in that registration form that I sent home this time, I will still get called.  Hopefully though I will always remember to order them on time!

 

I will make a note though about what Jamie said just in case a puppy goes to Canada.  THANKS Jamie.

 

Jennifer W

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No problem, Jennifer.  The reason I have made such a point about it is because I only found out about the rule change AFTER 2 puppies that will be registered in Canada were already chipped with the Avid Euro chip.  I had asked, "Is this chip still recognized in Canada" when I ordered the chips...BUT...it is 'recognized'...as far as if a pet gets lost...the chip can still be read...I was told YES.  However, if I had worded my question a bit differently and said recognized for REGISTRATION with CKC they would have told me no.  The confusion comes from the fact that the Euro Chip and the Home Again chip ARE ISO chips.  Which is what is required...what the fine print says and if you dig far enough on the CKC web site you will find is that there are only 4 companies that applied for and were approved to provide the ISO chip for CKC Registration.  Avid Canada, also known as Advanced ID, did apply and was approved.  Avid US and Home Again did not and so even though they have an ISO chip...it isn't approved for registration. 

 

Now...if anyone is planning on showing in Canada or is going to register their dog with CKC for breeding purposes and your dog was chipped PRIOR to Aug. 2005...they will still accept the registration.  It only applies if the dog was chipped after the date the rule went into effect.


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MAN those needles are HUGE!! lol!!  i can not do it myself!! i buy the packs and have my vet do it for all of our dogs.  he charges $10 and the needles i believe are like 70 to 80 for 5.  we do all of our "rescues" too!! 


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We chip all our pups before they leave. Like Heather we also list ourselves as the secondary contact. We have them done by either our primary vet when he vaccinates and health checks them. He charges us $30 per chip, but only charges $7 for vaccines and exam so it isn't to bad. On occassion when he is short on chips for a larger litter ( we are the only clients he has that use them), then we have the CERF vet chip them. They have to be done for CERF anyway. He charges us $18 per chip.

 

NOTE I would be very careful if chipping your own pups. To many times I have seen my vets scan a chip prior to insertion, only to find out the chip was defective. If you dont have a scanner ( very expensive ) I suggest taking any chips you have purchased for home use and having them scanned at your vets before you use them.  We learned the hard way. One of our pups was done before we scanned the chip. We had to implant a second one after the first wouldnt register on the scanner UGH.


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I just helped chip 15 puppies last week, and it went very smoothly.  We did have a scanner, and we checked every chip before and after it was put into the puppy.  Only about 5 of the puppies even squealed, and only 2 of them bled.  The needles are SCARY huge, and I'd never want to stick one in myself, but the puppies really don't seem to mind.  It's worse for the human than it is for the pup, I think.  What worked best for us was to count to 3 and JAB.  I was holding the pups, so I got to close my eyes, and that helped, too.  
 
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Hello to all -

   I have been lurking in the sidelines for many months but finally bought a beautiful boy.  Lovin' him!  Now I'm finally brave enough to chime in with a question.  My question is this:  I had my puppy chipped at the vets about a month and a half ago.  I have recently noticed a semi-hard swelling around the site that I believe the chip was inserted.  Is this normal?  I just noticed it today and I'm thinking of bringing him in to be checked.  It's about the size of a quarter.  Thanks for any input -
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Congrats on your new boy!  I don't have much experience except with  my three and no swelling like that.  I'd call to check in with your vet.  Let us know what the outcome is.

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