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He's got nothing on Archie Bunker..he would have to be my all time favourite..how old did you think I was?
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You don't want to go there! Trust me!.....LOL


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Posting Peter again to illustrate the limited amount of curtain & wrinkle that he possessed.
What comes through, is the underlying structure of muscle & bone that is called for in the standard.
We have also seen the extreme in this direction take hold in Mastiff populations, as expressed even more dramatically in the following pictures....

Now compare these way overdone types to that of Peter and you can clearly see that under all of this superfluous skin, there might not be much else!


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"Above all, a uniform type should be aimed at by breeders and uniformity of type can only exist in a proportionate ratio in the purity and distinctiveness in any breed"!.........M. Moore
"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well." Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything...Catherine McMillan
" A reinforced consolidation of the American and British standards could be the basis for restoring our breed to the gladiatorial glory of its ancient past, in capability if not in usage".....Norman Howard Carp-Gordon
"I can live with doubt, or not knowing, rather than to have answers that might be wrong"...Richard Feynman
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I read all your comments with great interest. I have watched the breed, long before I had the pleasure of being owned by first my Phoebe, and now my Dougie. I would very much like to know how you folks measure your dogs. Is there a chart somewhere? I know the standard, but can't seem to understand the measurement of height.
Would one of you knowledgeable folks enlighten me?
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Judi

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Height is measured at the top of the shoulder blades when a dog is standing with its front legs vertical and beneath the shoulder.  Yard sticks work very well for this.

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I read all your comments with great interest. I have watched the breed, long before I had the pleasure of being owned by first my Phoebe, and now my Dougie. I would very much like to know how you folks measure your dogs. Is there a chart somewhere? I know the standard, but can't seem to understand the measurement of height.
Would one of you knowledgeable folks enlighten me?
Thank you,
Judi

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