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I would like to try a different approach on this thread. If respondents could start their posts with YES, NO or MAYBE, followed by no more than 10 lines of discussion (if desired,) I think it would be interesting. Let's give it a try. __________________ __________________ Karen K.
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Pro: I personally love the Pied coat patterns. Looking at artists' renderings of early Mastiffs, and their progenitors back through time, it would appear that pied colouration was relatively common. It seems reasonable to me that -- as genes never go away, but may lurk dormantly in bloodlines over many generations -- the expression of Pied patterns today very likely harkens back to these ancestors. Con-ish: Obviously, at present the standard penalises white aside from the chest, and appears to focus on eliminating it to the extent possible (toes, nails, etc). If Pieds were to be accepted, a lot of thinking would need to be given to what is/should be the identity of and goals for the breed, and the standard would need significant modification. __________________ Karen L Cornelius
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I would hate to see the population of Mastiffs go even further with folks trying to attain a certain coloration. I always look to the protection and welfare of the breed in my country as a barometer for future change or standard revision. I wonder what the breeding programs would look like to include pieds and spots...just my thoughts.
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In all honestly (ok I am not a breeder, show person or anything, I just love the breed and really want one) I don't think they look EM. And while there may be ancestor there, unless you have a proven historical line then who isn't going to say the not so savoy breeder wont introduce other breeds in order to breed for color? I love the piebald color, I think their good looking dogs. But I am currently looking for a breeder and if they have them I will avoid. I dont feel it I guess and it's not what I want. Sorry I can't answer with genetic codes and such. lol. Fluffys I like. But again if a breeder is breeding for fluff I will avoid, but a pop up would be fine here. They still look like EM to me. I am ok with Pied fanciers making a separated breed for piebald. But IMHO they shouldn't be allowed with current em standards. __________________ Boomer Beagle, Gatorbait Chihuahua Stewie. Cats-GG, Pisces, Zodie, Butterball, Dolly.