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steveoifer

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Everyone should test!
 
There are NO excuses!.....PERIOD!!!
 
Bad excuse #1............
 
I don't believe in testing!
 
#2- The test isn't accurate.
 
#3- The dogs that are positive usually don't get stones.
 
#4- I'm waiting for a better test.
 
#5- I know my lines are free of cyst.
 
To sum it ALL up...............
 
ALL of the above answers are BS!
 
In truth, the primary test is relatively accurate.
 
In truth, you can always go for the $150 test that is very accurate!
 
In truth, not all C+ dogs get stones, but those that do, suffer terribly and can die!
 
In truth, nobody can "know" their lines if their dogs had no symptoms, yet still pass on a carrier gene!
 
In truth, if you truly care about the future of the breed, you should ALL believe in testing, even if it is not 100% foolproof!
 
In truth, some breeders just don't want to hear that their prize stud tested positive!
 
In truth, those who do not test, are creating an epidemic within the breed.
 
In truth, EVERYONE should test and clearly reveal their test results.
 
In truth, urine should be validated so as not to switch samples submitted.
 
If we look at the top 20 Mastiffs in the country, we should see that they have been tested for Cyst.
 
Those that have not been tested, or those that come from well known sires that have not been tested, need to get tested IMMEDIATELY! Including those well known parents!
 
In truth, it is irresponsible for ANY breeder, no matter how well known, or iconic, not to test!!!
 
We can still control the spread of Cyst. if we test and then act responsibly if the test is positive!
 
Let's not let ANYONE off this hook!
 
TEST your MASTIFFS!
 
Do the right thing!
 
NO EXCUSES!.....PERIOD!!!


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 Love your passion about this Steve!
Great points/Great post !!! 
 I agree 100 % !!!

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Sheri

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Steve,

What about females.  Do you believe in testing the females?

I do.  I did.

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steveoifer

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Testing females has not been productive.

That's why a genome project is so important.

Once we identify the DNA, we can then screen females with certainty.

To date, only one female has tested positive and that is an anomaly.

Perhaps more sensitive traditional testing can be developed, but I'm going for the genome solution!

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For the betterment of the breed

"Above all, a uniform type should be aimed at by breeders and uniformity of type can only exist in a proportionate ratio in the purity and distinctiveness in any breed"!.........M. Moore
"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well." Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything...Catherine McMillan
" A reinforced consolidation of the American and British standards could be the basis for restoring our breed to the gladiatorial glory of its ancient past, in capability if not in usage".....Norman Howard Carp-Gordon
"I can live with doubt, or not knowing, rather than to have answers that might be wrong"...Richard Feynman
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Test, Test, and Retest..... 

Along the lines of testing, please remember C+ test results usually show up at puberty or older and since the levels fluctuate throughout a C+ dog's life, we have to keep retesting. 

I suppose it is similar to doing heartworm testing, even if you use heartworm prevention medication, you still have to retest annually and watch for it.

REMEMBER.....  If your dog ever tests positive for Cystinuria and you are willing to participate in the research and donate blood, UPenn will offer you FREE Cystinuria re-testing as they want to watch and observe the cystine levels in the C+ dog's urine.

If you neuter a C+ Mastiff that has participated in the research, it is still very helpful to keep donating urine samples as UPenn would like to see if the decrease in the dog's hormones might change the status on the expression of the disease...  We need all the information we can get to try to figure out if anything is triggering the disease to express itself or not...

UPenn also needs to know if a dog that is part of the study forms cystine crystals or stones.

Although bitchs are testing negative with the current NP urine screening, testing bitches for Cystinuria is still encouraged to help the researchers understand the disease better.  If a bitch tests Cystinuria positive, she might be extremely useful in the research study and having the data on the bitches is also helpful with the statistics.

Anna

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Thank you Anna for all the information. I do believe the biggest ally we have in this battle is knowledge. All of your post have been extremely helpful!!

And, Steve, I agree TEST TEST TEST...No good excuse NOT to test!



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Thankyou Anna,Steve you are so right,until this thing is at least partly solved,we all need to do our patrs.Adrian

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Everyone should be testing (and retesting). There is not ONE valid excuse not to!!! Puppy buyers (whether for pet or show) can do their part by NOT purchasing puppies from untested parents...maybe after being stuck with a litter the breeders that don't test will start...

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