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Crossroads

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I looked all through the Ivomec thread and I saw Panacur mentioned a good bit as a preventive for the intestinal worms that the Ivomec doesn't get.  Would the Strongid paste do the same thing?  My dogs hate the Panacur liquid and I hate giving it 3 days in a row.


STRONGID® PASTE
(pyrantel pamoate)
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STRONGID® (pyrantel pamoate) Paste is a potent equine wormer containing pyrantel, a compound from the tetrahydropyrimidine class. STRONGID Paste removes and controls most common and damaging internal parasites including bloodworms, small strongyles, pinworms, and large roundworms. STRONGID Paste is a pale-yellow-to-buff paste containing 43.9% w/w pyrantel pamoate in an inert vehicle. Each syringe contains 3.6 grams pyrantel base in 23.6 g (20 mL) paste. Each mL contains 180 mg pyrantel base as pyrantel pamoate.


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The only thing I have heard about the equine stongid paste is that it's dosed for horses and the medication inside the tube isn't always mixed equally.  By giving the entire tube to one horse, it's get all the medicine, but since the medication isn't mixed thoroughly throughout the tube, giving it to a dog could either overdose or underdose.  I have no idea if this is true or not, but I did have a vet tell me this once when I asked about it.

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I use Strongid T, it is a liquid and easy to dose.  You can get it from your vet.


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I use SafeGuard for goats it's a liquid & has the same ingredient as Panacur (Fenbendazole) It's also available for cows same stuff just in a bigger container. Dose is 1cc per 20lbs of body weight. Safe to give to young pups, I give 1/4 of a cc for 2week old pups, 1/2 to 4 week olds.   Jenni


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http://www.revivalanimal.com/store/p/2775-Pyrantel-50mg.aspx

Non-prescription liquid wormer containing 50mg Pyrantel Pamoate/mL

16 OZ ( 473 ML ) bottle = 19.99
32 OZ ( 946 ML ) bottle = $ 29.99

Monthly dosage

150 LB dog > 6.8 ML
175 LB dog > 7.9 ML
200 LB dog > 9 ML




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Eileen,
Do you use that monthly along with the heartworm preventive?

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At the shelter we used strongid T a liquid, and the dosage was 1 cc per 10 lbs, and we normally dosed three days in a row for "wormy" dogs, just once for regular dogs and cats.  strongid will catch everythin but whips and tapes.


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eileen, Is that dose just one day a month or do you have to do the 3 days?


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Why would you deworm dogs monthly; and not just deworm if they should somehow get worms?  I've never had a dog with worms....except for a puppy I had once who had roundworms when I got him. I dewomed him and he never had worms again.
I know that horse people deworm monthly but I never thought dog people did...
just wondering...?

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M.C.,

I've been using the Pancaur every three months as a preventive for intestinal worms.  We live in the country on 13 acres, so my dogs get to run a lot.  Even though our property is completely fenced, I still worry about what they may be getting into.  They have brought dead critters up on my deck a couple of times.  Another thing I have to work around is the climate here in North Carolina.  We don't have enough days with freezing temperatures to kill fleas, ticks, etc. so we treat year-round for those things too.  I think people in colder climates can stop treating for those things through the winter months, right?

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They have brought dead critters up on my deck a couple of times. 


Ah, THAT explains it!  LOL

Yuck!! 

Thanks Jennifer- M.C.

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strongid t and the dogs like it and it is CHEAP!! from your vet


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Jennifer

I do not give my adult dogs chemical wormers of any kind. We are not in a heartworm area. And we have never had worms of any kind or coccidia or giardia. This has been  proven by so many  fecal floats. My vet is amazed that in 10 + years he has never found a single intestinal parasite in my dogs other that poor Frankie who came to me from his breeder infested with roundworm and coccidia.

I am not recommending everyone stop giving heartworm preventative. This is my personal preference based on the extremely low incidence of heartworm in my area VS the high rate of cancer in canines. We can treat heartworm, but most canine cancers are deadly.
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I do however worm puppies at 5 and 7 weeks even though their fecals have always been negative too. We have a puppy lemon law here in PA and I do it just to be safe in case the pups pick up something from the local wild life when outdoors.
And yes I do use the above Pyrantel for the pups as advised by our vet.

In the past we gave our dogs a size appropriate dose of Interceptor every 45 days. Now instead of wormers my dogs have been getting a twice daily dose of the montmorillonite clay for quite some time. It binds to, starves and suffocates intestinal parasites. Plus there are other added benefits to clay therapy.

BTW Montmorillonite should not be confused with bentonite or attapulgite clay which the FDA pulled off the market for internal use many years ago due to the high lead content that can cause lead poisoning.  This is one of the reasons that the original Kaopectate formula ( attapulgite ) was changed. If anyone decides to go the clay route make sure to ask the source to provide you with a certified chemical analysis document. 



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