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cariston

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Well here they are at it again!!!  Proctor and Gamble has bought out Natura pet foods such as Innova, Evo, Karma, Natures Variety, etc etc...  Thank God the Nutro line was bought out by MARS candy company because they did not want to sell to P and G.


Proctor and Gamble turned to crap when they bought out Science Diet and Iams and  years ago it was discovered that the manufacturers were putting dead dog parts from animal shelters and other places into the packaged pet foods. They were sued for that I believe years ago.   Proctor and Gamble has ruined many pet food and pet line products once they buy out certain foods. I would watch what brand you feed your pet and educate yourselves on which foods are being bought by proctor and gamble, and which are being recalled...

Below is a link to more info I found.....  This could potentially be why some dogs have been getting sick and infected with renal failure..



http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9FGP1IG0.htm


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P and G has always been crap

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What a shame.  I hate to see the makers of quality foods being bought out by those whose bottom line is usually money.

I do, think, however that Nutro was already pretty crummy - I personally wouldn't feed that.

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cariston

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I cant say for sure but I think Blue Buffalo either already has or is in talks with P and G about selling to them....


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Sorry, Cariston - but I have to jump in here. I have been feeding Eukanuba for over 13 years now - to both my mastiffs and to my bostons. I have never had any issues with it. Only health issues I've had with my dogs were not related in any way to their food. I certainly won't be changing food based upon unfounded rumors and innuendo.

The acquisition by P & G took place almost a year ago - I haven't heard any stories of dogs getting sick and suffering from renal failure as a result of it.

My only issue is the price - $49.99 for a 40# bag is a little steep - especially when a bag only lasts me 4-5 days.
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Actually, there were several companies who do use generic terms like, animal fat, animal by-product or meat - and those companies, according to the US EPA, can include the following:

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Meat rendering plants process animal by-product materials for the production of tallow, grease, and high-protein meat and bone meal. Plants that operate in conjunction with animal slaughterhouses or poultry processing plants are called integrated rendering plants. Plants that collect their raw materials from a variety of offsite sources are called independent rendering plants. Independent plants
obtain animal by-product materials, including grease, blood, feathers, offal, and entire animal carcasses, from the following sources: butcher shops, supermarkets, restaurants, fast-food chains, poultry processors, slaughterhouses, farms, ranches, feedlots, and animal shelters.


According to various researchers, a number of people have come up with varying criteria used to grade the quality of dog food.  Eukanuba and Iams are not generally regarded among the higher quality foods.

http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=grading_kibble




Your dogs might do fine on these foods, and I am sure if there were serious health problems continually stemming from feeding these foods there wouldn't be so many people purchasing them.  At some point there would need to be changes made.

It does seem, unfortunately, that some of the bigger companies do spend more on marketing and sales than they do securing the best available ingredients.

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Raw food is better for your dogs anyway.

Raw foods is usually purchaesd by users Locally supporting our economy not som econglomerate with factories everywhere but here.

The more people that get with this program maybe we can m,ake a dent and demand better foods for our pets.

Wanna know why there is such an increase in pet cancers?  Just look at the ingredients they are allowed to use in pet food that they are not allowed to use in human food because theycause CANCER.

Until we stop poisoning our pets with this crap thay are jus tgonna keep buying up the little guy that makes quality food and then cashing in on the reputation without keeping the quality.

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Prior to like th e1950's or so there was no commercial dog/cat food.  What did dogs eat for thousands of years before then?  People scraps and whatefver they hunted or scavenged.


Why do we think everything we do for our own lazy convenience is Better?


okay stepping off the soapbox now but I'll tell ya I am really close to just starting the revolution in this country GE paid no taxes this year and we are all corporate wage slaves we are not free people.

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augusta

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hi,

heather posted a link to the whole dog journal's web page, they do extensive research every year and are an excellent source of information about dog food - if i remember correctly a few months ago they did an article on the natural or organic or holistic or something foods and found a few of them lacking.

lisa filu has also mentioned an organization that certifies dog food, maybe organic dog food?

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hi,

commerical dog food goes back to the mid 1800's when someone named spratt saw street dogs eating hardtack biscuits that were tossed off ships when the ships came into port in london.

i used to have a great full page ad for spratts from around 1880, with a mastiff with human teeth...eyeroll.  the teeth were an accident, i had a slightly later copy of the same ad where the dog had normal dog teeth.

i just found an article about spratts, it was...ta da!!!!  bought out by general mills in the 1950's.
http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2004/09/history-of-dog-food.html

growing up in the 50's i remember horse meat was heavily advertised as a part of canned dog food but i'm guessing that horse meat is no longer allowed in pet food.

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